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Bear 1, man 0.
I feel sorry for the guy, but, he had to know there are bears in the woods. Besides, what good will it do to kill the bear?
 

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Carry a gun? Can't we try to just peacefully co-exist with our brother bears? If we're unarmed, then the bears have to know that we mean them no harm. They'll understand. After all, the bears have just as much intelligence as the hikers......oh, maybe that's part of the problem....:confused:
 

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if we are unarmed, we mean to feed them no arms. kinda like a snak-lite.
yeah, the bears got the edge on the hikers.. its like candy lane,, just park in a bush and wait for a gum drop to stroll by.
The 2nd Amendment gives us the right to keep and arm bears, or something like that.:D
 

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I think, as humans, we often forget that opposable thumbs are in no way a guarantee of food-chain dominance.
 

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JOKE !
Whadya git win ya rub the hiker wit 2 bearz in der woodz ?

HAHAHAHA . . . . . . . . Ya'll neever git it . . . . .neever . . . . . ssnikikook ook
 

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Been through this on another forum I frequent. A guy ask "have any of you ever actually, honestly been in a situation where you need a gun to protect yourself?" I thought that to be a ridiculous question...ask that Michigan hiker! Only he's not talking anymore! I carry so I don't need hikers finding my body the next day. And why kill the bear? So the next hiker wont be found a morning later by other hikers! Gun vs Bear spray? I read a post copied from some ranger that suggested bear spray should be carried and used as a last resort...that tells me after your gun is empty! Seriously, they say the gun will only anger the bear. I'd guess so, maybe even make him/her think of something else to do?
Sorry, the other forum guy has riled me up about this. One of those "if-everyone-gave up-gun-ownership, we'll-all-be-safer" people. To those who believe that, I suggest you go around asking thugs, rapist and murderers to give up their guns first....start on the southern border, with the gangs that are cutting heads off others! Ask them to give up their guns so we can all live in peace. I'll be willing to talk to you about mine after I'm convinced all criminals are un-armed.
 

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Okay, now my coffee has kicked in and I'm still riled from that other forum. Sorry to take this out here on this site. Yellowstone placed wolves in the park years ago, after they were gone from the park. I thought the balance of wildlife was pretty nice. Now you can't find many elk in the park. Supposedly, wildlife specialist felt the eco-system could contain about 140 pairs of wolves, with a balance of other wildlife. The problem, they never included a way to control the number of the predators. Last I heard, 540 wolves now live and thrive on deer, elk and bison in Yellowstone. I asked a lady at the gift shop three years ago if they ever see elk anymore. She replied they did, saw an elk calf being killed by a wolf right their in their condo complex the other evening. I asked why no one shot the wolf? She had a look of horror in her face at that suggestion! I guess it's okay to kill the elk, so long as the wolves are thriving? What happened to a balance? My prediction is more hikers will be killed in the future by wolves. Since they are lowering the population of deer and elk, Bears and Wolves need something else to eat, and people are slow, soft and bring their own pepper spice!
Okay, I'm through now. Thanks for your patience.
 

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Ponch....lol

Anyway, I've seen plenty of black bear camping in central ID. Seen wolves too. Heard mountain lion (don't usually see them till it's too late). Yes, my can of "bear spray" is a gun. It's either my old 7x57 Mauser or a Remmy 870. I'm not about to let some wayward wild animal bust up my coolers of beer. Or get into the bacon! Ain't campin unless you got bacon in the morning.

Having a rifle or shotgun leaning against your camp chair also mitigates the wolf-criers who, on a busy camping weekend, will bring a horror story about a bear/wolf/mountain lion/rabid hippopotamus/Idaho democrat ravaging their campsite and attempt to scare you out of yours.

"No worries pal. Got my can of 'bear spray' right here! Thanks for the heads up, tho."

...have actually had that conversation with a fella once. For reference: hard to sell a bear-attack story if your uniformly tanned pecs and immaculate Banana Republic khaki shorts are completely unmarred. I also have an inexplicable mistrust of anyone driving an Isuzu Amigo...not sure why.
 

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Ponch, trust me...there ain't nothin scarier than a gun-toting Idaho Democrat. All the rest of us just try to keep from gettin 'em riled.

But truth is, they're the main reason we got so many good places for outdoor activities like hunting and fishing and whatnot. You don't mess with an Idaho Democrat's hunting season. It'd just get ugly.

And sure, we got plenty of Californians. They mostly keep to themselves in Boise or the Sun Valley/Ketchum/Hailey (Blaine County) area. But even someone who ain't local could tell the difference on SIGHT between an ID Democrat and a CA liberal. They don't make too many waves...it's mostly their drivin habits that get the rest of us irked.
 

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Sounds like you have some old school Democrats, before the libs took over the party. They might actually be someone to reason with?
 

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This is what a can of large varmint spray looks like in IA
 

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I recon they both spray 00 & slugs pretty good ;)
 
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