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Out of the tread for this year Kawboy invasion has sprung the idea for a near future ride down the Baja Penisula, for all those who dare cross the border.
The initial IDEA is to ride all the way to Cabo, spend a couple of days here and ride back. There are many places to visit along the way and a lot of friendly MC clubs that would gladly help/ride with us.
B4 anyone asks, the road is paved all the way here and there are no striped donkeys blocking the roads.
One of the first ideas is to maybe rent some bikes in SD for the guys that might want to fly in from far away, already looking into that.
Because is one of the rides on my list I already started on the logistics of it, the very basic: Hotels, road conditions and gas stations.
All interested start to chime in, the summer ride tread started since last November and is already 60 pages long so, what the heck, lets see how this goes.
 

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Siesta by the Sea.? or is it the Baja Burn.?

I am down for this EPIC Adventure! have dreamed of doing the Baja, just never had the contacts or cahonies to pull it of solo..

pik and wrap this around a holiday and stretch this into a 10-11 day outing mite attract more attention. not many can/will fly, rent and ride.. butt, IF a couple of Texkins wanted to truck/trailer a few bikes to Yuma/SanDiego.?, that would provide logistical support and each has their own hoss to ride.. it sometimes makes for a more affordable outing.. jus thinking out loud.

butt definitely doable.. 1 day Tex to Baja. 7-9 day ride n Siesta by the Sea.. sounds kinda inviting.. all the lil villas all the way down to Cabo and back.
don't they have Whale Riding there? kinda like bronco busting.. cept you get busted.. poncho

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Tij...81bb676a651!2m2!1d-116.605833!2d31.857778!3e0
 

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What month approximately are we doing this? I will meed to schedule with my boss ahead of time. Since I booked three weeks for this summer there will be 10 or 11 days left that I can take in winter.

I can do over Xmass or Thanksgiving, but perhaps that is not the best time for others.
 

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I think the first order of things is to narrow down the time slot, first proposal fromDR is around Xmas. Let's give it a couple of weeks for all interested to trow in their proposed timing and then figure out what works for most of us.
 

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Crossing the border, let see, no big deal really. If you have to get across the border going either way at the wrong time (rush hour) you may end up waiting a couple of hours to get across, more dramatic to go across northbound than southbound. As I lived in Tj for a loooooong time I already know what time to avoid trying to cross.
Keep in mind the rush hours at the Tj/San Ysidro border are not exactly the same as normal rush hour.
Tijuana Border is the most crossed border in the world and a lot has to do with the number of people that live in Tj but work in the US (legal workers with green card and a lot of naturalized americans that end up living in Tj) + people taking their children to school and so forth. So a lot of it is every day life commuting but it has to go trough a very slow inspection booth (like a paybooth but instead of charging you money the check out your car and ask you questions).
If you time it right you may get across in as little as 3-5 minutes (rare but it happens) and for people that get across often you can register (and pay for) a program that gives you a "trusted traveler status" and it lets you go into special lanes that have shorter lines and go faster.
There's also a lot of recreational and commercial traffic, specially on the weekends. On US holidays there is a LOT of traffic coming south, mexican-americans trying to spend long weeekends with their families in mexico and US folks comming for a good time, the drinking age here is 18 so you can imagine.
When a US citizen crosses for the first time they often experience a little culture shock, it becomes an experience like they were in a different world, they end up adapting very fast.
 

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it could look like this?

I do have another week to burn thru in the Fall, but unless this event moved up the priority chart, I tend to do a leaf peeping run up the smokies, blue ridge burn..

so after that then the next available window for me would be week after xmas.. I could load up some bikes and truk/trailer to Yuma or SD xmas eve-xmas. Saturday Dec 26 would be day 1 on the Cabo Cruise.. I mite think to fly my friend to Cabo meet there. she could have a xmas vaca, whale ride, etc..

we Ride south Sat, Sun, Mon. arrive Cabo Tues-Wed. Ride north Thur-Fri-Sat, load up and Bust home Sunday. back to work Monday Jan 4..
but this is all just thinking out the box for the moment. still would have to sell this war plan to some folks. poncho

1077, you should borrow/rent yor bros bike and have son ride it w/us. it would make a great father/son memory. maybe start a new phase in life?
 

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so after that then the next available window for me would be week after xmas.. I could load up some bikes and truk/trailer to Yuma or SD xmas eve-xmas.
In winter we're dealing with shorter days and we have to put that into the mix, most of us don't like riding at night and these will be moonlit roads.

we Ride south Sat, Sun, Mon. arrive Cabo Tues-Wed. Ride north Thur-Fri-Sat, load up and Bust home Sunday. back to work Monday Jan 4..
but this is all just thinking out the box for the moment. still would have to sell this war plan to some folks. poncho
Linking this ride to a US holiday would give us a couple of more days that will make the whole deal more relaxed. This might make us push it 2016 (either presidents day or memorial day) and that would also give us longer days to work with.

1077, you should borrow/rent yor bros bike and have son ride it w/us. it would make a great father/son memory. maybe start a new phase in life?
Ponch: this is a very good idea, I can integrate this with the inception thing we were talking in the other post, just have to deal with the Wife, she HAD to accept me being a part time biker but is set against her son folloing my steps, a thing I know at this point is absolutely unavoidable, just have to give her time and try to look like I am not involved at all ( or get a divorce, but this sounds more expensive).
 

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Linking this ride to a US holiday would give us a couple of more days that will make the whole deal more relaxed. This might make us push it 2016 (either presidents day or memorial day) and that would also give us longer days to work with.
Memorial Day is 25th of June. In January there are no holidays other than New Year that my company observes. The same is true for February. There is Valentine's Day (made up holiday designed to boost the shopping spree and save stores from bankruptcy after Christmas). We do not observe that one. Groundhog day as well as Lincoln's and Washington birthdays are also not a day off for us. ("us" being the company I work for, not the rest of the USA)

Daylight time. Well in November and January it is only 30 minutes longer than in December. Does not make a lot of difference. In December we have 8.5 hours of solid daylight. But we have to get up at 7am to take advantage of it.

The last 10 days of December is easy to take vacation, because the company virtually shuts down. It is a defacto vacation time whether we like it or not. It is just that Thanksgiving and Christmas are family holidays, and folks want to eat way to much and open presents with their family. While it seems that is a good time for Ponch and I, it might not be the best time for others. We shall see. (Perhaps for some a bike ride to Mexico is the best present)

In North cali I ride bike pretty much all year around, except few days when we have nasty storms come in from the sea. What is it like in Baja during that time of year? Is it all covered in fog with nasty cross winds?

Also what is the border crossing like? Do we need a whole day for that ordeal?
 

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During December and January we might expect some showers and not a lot on wind, rainy season is from December to February but very umpredictable as far as when it starts and when it ends, as far as rain is concerned Feb would worry me more.
We might, will get some fog during the early morning hours but not near bay area conditions so it would be insignificant for you, the mornings will be chilly and probably most days overcast/partially sunny, frogg toggs will be required and used during this trip.
The crossing at the border southbound would be half a hour at the most, as we will be riding loaded bikes, we might (probably will) get inspected, nothing to worry about unless you have weapons or drugs. You CAN NOT bring firearms into Mexico.
For me it might work better the first or second week in January but if planned in advance I might be able to make almost any date work, right next to Xmas might be the hardest sell for me (family thing, still have kids living at home and an old fashion gal). From Dec 27th or 28th on might work.
What about Jan 18, even white dudes celebrate that one (hope I'm not stepping on any toes here) and unless you sell exercise equipment or tend the return kiosk at Walmart, any business hasn't really pick up yet from the Xmas slump by that date.
 

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By the way,I think memorial day is May 30th, not that it makes that much of a difference.
 

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Errr yes it is. so here we are. moving on...
inasmuch as this year is getting booked up perty full.. we mite wanna sit on this trippage for a spell.
I have 3 rides scheduled and a spare week at xmas.. first quarter of each year am bizzy. each year we have allocated vaca daze, use em or lose em.. so cant sit on, carry over.
I book 1st week ~spring break (next week I will be in Portlandia). 2nd week is my summer buster. 3rd is Fall'iage. then holidaze consummate any straggler time.
so that is the rhythm of the drums.. sorta kinda worx.. not getting any much road time. watts up with that? poncho
 

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Why don't you guys let me ask around with my buddies and figure out the best times of the year to do this trip, it is after all mostly desert and we want to maximize the enjoyment of the experience.
After that we can go over everyone schedule and vacation times and figure something out, we'll be able to talk it to over during this summer's ride.
From what I already know the only time we should avoid is spring break, every beach destination gets to crowded and the roads get to full for us to fully enjoy the road.
Also is worthy of consideration that there is an overnight ferry that crosses from La Paz to Mazatlan, this would give us a way to not roll back on our tracks but take an alternate route on the mainland making it posible to end up crossing over to the US in Az or NM instead of California.
That would be a whole different animal to tackle but, Hey, just trowing some ideas to the pot.
 

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I am flexible with time, just need to know two months in advance
 

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From what I already know the only time we should avoid is spring break, every beach destination gets to crowded and the roads get to full for us to fully enjoy the road.
Also is worthy of consideration that there is an overnight ferry that crosses from La Paz to Mazatlan, this would give us a way to not roll back on our tracks but take an alternate route on the mainland making it posible to end up crossing over to the US in Az or NM instead of California..
is February too early or too late? cooler weather mite be better in the desert if it doesn't rain. the boat ride over to the mainland is interesting. have done this several places, makes for larger experience. as for xing over border Az, I would only if I had an escort to it. too many horrific bad stories about near border behavior, Tx-Mx is a war zone.. this is from many my contractors travel to family often. they say interior is better, but the border is a crap shoot, theyr scared of it. poncho
 

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I think from mid Feb to just b4 spring break would be the best time, not yet all that hot and most of the rain is done with. Days are not as short and all the towns along the way are prep'ing for spring visitors.
I've yet to get suggestions from fellow bikers that have done the trip to take advantage from their experience, I have never felt the lure of joining a biker club but have some friend who are members and their collective knowledge IS a great source of info.
The ferry idea was just more of a thought, myself I find the peninsula much more interesting and we can split the sites along the way, some we can visit on the way down to Cabo and some on the way back, that allows to keep the rent-a-bike possibility open and you are right about some of the safety issues on some areas of Sinaloa and south Sonora, on that regard the Baja roads and Towns are much easier going and generally considered safer. Riding in a pack should be fine if riding within common sense practices.
The desert ride in the main land is not really not much of a fun ride (so they tell me), like all desserts, a lot of loooooong straight stretches of plain road and cactuses all around, if we wanted to make it interesting we would have to go East and make it up the Chihuahua hills but that is a whole different ride.
 

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Sounds like we need to gather at the California / Mexico border before crossing in and out. Just like a herd of wildebeests crossing an african river in Serengeti.
 

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Sounds like we need to gather at the California / Mexico border before crossing in and out. Just like a herd of wildebeests crossing an african river in Serengeti.
yeah the crox only kill and eat the very young, the weak and the old.. dam its a wonder they don't let you carry some heat wen all the crox are armed to the teeth..
 

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These here crox have an appetite for gringos ??.
Always considered a San Diego meet point for this one, when we make it happen I'll go across the border with the pack, probably would do a meet & greet at Imperial beach the night b4 departure.
 
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