Sorry,can't comment about the concours,but the 1700 to me is only heavy off the stand and very slow turns,Awesome bike,8k and still:grin2:I keep reading how top heavy the voyager is. I currently ride a 95 concours. Full of fuel, it's pretty top heavy. Was wondering if anyone could give me a comparison of the two.
What your describing is not top heavy rather very positive steering... When the bike wants to fall into a corner its considered positive. You want one with positive steering jump on a Kingpin. If the bike is in the middle and just works without pulling down or standing up it's considered to be nuetral. Obviously if you have to muscle it through a corner its's negative. A lot of bikes with the big wide rear tires. Victory hammer comes to mind, want to stand up in the corners as they get pushed buy the big rear tire. Riding one you hav to "push" it down with the bars. These bad looking bikes have negative steering..There were only two motorcycles I have ridden that felt top heavy. Early 70s Honda 350, and mid 70s KZ 650.
For me, top heavy means the bike wants to fall over in the curves instead of a planted or neutral feel.
The best handling touring bike I have ever owned was the Voyager XII. Low cg with aftermarket suspension made that bike amazing!
Then, every bike is top heavy to someone, and some find no bike that is top heavy.Top heavy, balanced etc is off the kickstand. How much weight your lifting..
That's the way I understand it.
While you are at the dealership sit on a Voyager with it up right and lean it back and forth a "little" and see how it feels. That is how it will feel while in your garage.
The major percent of all M/C falls are at a dead stop in your garage, or while parking it, moving it around, or backing it out for your garage for a ride.
You have not lived til you have a kickstand pop back up after you have let the scoot go over to land on it and it ain't there. The only time I have ever fell over with any scoot was on my KZ1000p police scoot (before we started riding HD's) while parking it in the my garage at home in its usual spot after work. The stand on those would pop back up if you slammed it down too fast. Yep, I went over to the left against the wall. Did not pop the windshield off which surprised me. The left bar end hit the wall at a good angle to stop it from going all the way over. So yes, when you least expect it, things happen. And yes.. even though I have been riding since the early 60's, taught MSF classes for over 20 years and still am currently certified, and did 24 years as a motor officer, I am not foolish enough to say that I won't ever go down. I just have a little better chance of it not happening, but it can still happen easy enough.