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Since I purchased my 2009 Classic LT on May 1st, I've put 6100 miles on it, and already need a new rear tire. The OEM tire was a Dunlop; I'll be replacing it with a Metzeler 880. Doesn't sound like much mileage to me, any suggestions as to why it's time to replace already?

As has been mentioned in other parts of this forum, I've kept the pressure a bit higher than was in the OM.

Hoping the Metzeler will last a tad bit longer...
 

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Any description of treadwear on the Dunlop...i.e. center treadwear, edgewear?

I'm thinking I should get 7K to 8K depending on how much my wife rides with me.

Good news is this Dunlop with tube isn't pricey....less than $250 a tire I'm told.

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Hello fellow Vulcan rider..... I have the same problem as you. I get just around 6,000 miles and no more than that on a set of tires. I tried the Metzlers and got even less than the Dunlop. Also remember if you do alot of 2 up riding you will cut your mileage on your tires. My dealer told me that due to the heavy weight and torque tires are just not going to have the lasting power. He told me to get use to it. My worst mileage was on a Continental..... I won't be buying those again. The Dunlop still seems to be the best on mileage and wear. If anyone out there knows of a better tire I'm game.
 

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12,000 on the stock rear, 15,000 on the rear. How? Run both at 40psi. The pressure specked in the owners man. is for a "smooth" ride. BS. Look at the sidewall cold pressure. 40 psi. The Metzler ought to do better, milage wise.
 

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The treadwear on the Dunlop (D404) was the around the center...totally flat; almost looks like a set of stock car slicks on it. I did some more research after I posted and seems like this is pretty typical. The Metzeler ME880 Marathons sound like they're built for cruisers like the Vulcan. I guess I'll report back after I get it installed!
 

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Although a smaller (lighter) bike but my 800 Classic rear tire went 13000 miles before replacement and I just changed my front tire today at 21660 miles.
I don't ride 2-up often and I down shift allot without braking fast. I also don't jump out from a stop quickly.
Quick deceleration / acceleration will run down a tire prematurely.
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I have 1,600 miles on the orignal Dunlops on my 900LT.

My local dealer said ignore the manual, don't run under 40 psi front or back. You should get 8-12K on the back tire.

My regional dealer, whom I also do business with, said "no way to 40 psi". Do what the manual says.

So, I had the regional dealer set the front to 30psi and the back to 32psi...cold.

This tire pressure thing is really confusing.

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I contacted Dunlop a while back and here's what they told me.

"Thank you for taking the time to contact us regarding the proper inflation pressures for the Dunlop D404 motorcycle tires fitted to your Kawasaki VN 900 Vulcan 900 Classic LT. For the original equipment sizes of 130/90-16 front and 180/70-15 rear, we suggest inflating your cold tires to 34 psi front and 38 psi rear for all loads and street conditions. These pressures allow for the tires to deliver maximum mileage before wear out with even tread wear. The lower OEM inflation pressure specs may provide a more comfortable ride, but may result in an irregular wear pattern."
 

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I've checked the Dunlop website and a few places on the net.

On the Dunlop website, under cruiser tires, model D404 Dunlop shows the 130/90-16 and recommended tire pressure 41psi for maximum load.

However, nowhere on the Dunlop site or on the net can I find a reference to a
180/70-15 tire.

Am I missing something here?

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My rear went at 5400 miles...was down to slightly less than 2mm. When checking for replacement, I could not find a D404 in the stock size listed anywhere.....not that I wanted another Dunlop anyway. I replaced both with Pirelli MT66Tours. So far, 4000 miles on them and both look almost brand new.
 

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I have had bad milage out of Dunlap tires on bikes I have used them on in the past... they have great traction, but appear to me to be of a softer rubber than say a Bridgestone. I like the Bridgestones and get almost twice the milage out of them as I did the dunlaps in the past.... plus the Bridgestones are affordable in price.
 

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I have been shopping just this week for a rear tire (180/70-15). Looked at Metzler & Pirelli since noone can seem to agree on whether the Dunlop sucks or not. See below for rounded prices listed on 3 common websites.

americanmototire.com - Pirelli MT66 $114 - Metzler ME880 $138
denniskirk.com - Pirelli MT66 $123 - Metzler ME880 $147
bikebandit.com - Pirelli MT66 $124 - Metzler ME880 $143
NOTE: Dennis Kirk price includes shipping.

With all this said, I am going to the local Ride Now shop to have my rear tire replaced (they are chain you can find on the internet). You see, all the local shops charge more for the install if you don't buy the tires from them. So it comes out the same whether you bring them the tire, or they order it for you. I can get the Metzler for $185-$200 aprox ordered, installed, etc. All I do is call ahead and take them the bike when the tire comes in.

By the way, thanks for the info on the tire pressure. I am going home to put a little more in mine tonight.
 

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Musicman brought up a good point that we should watch for when buying tires... namely rubber compound. I know some of the manufacturers differentiate their compounds by stating "racing", "sport", or "touring". The stickiness of the compound would most certainly affect the mileage we're seeing.
 

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7200+ miles and still have plenty of tread at both ends. I expect more than 10,000 on the tires and I run 40 psi.
 

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RonAyers.com
Metzelers for 138.30 $12 shipping
Pirelli for 113.67

personally I would like to jump to the 200 in the rear, but an extra 60 bucks... ooofff

Last time I got the tires put on my 750. I brought the wheels in off the bike and with the tires. I got the dealer to put them on for the same price as if I had bought them from him. When he asked if I had bought the tires from them I said "yeah I have bought tires from you" which is true. 3 yrs ago true I brought a bike in and had them put on tires.
 

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Below is a copy from one of my posts about 2 or 3 weeks ago (THE GENERAL IS DOING FINE ON THE REAR--a little over 2000 miles on it now )

I like to ride----92 miles round trip to work--5,6 or 7 days a week,sometimes 2 trips a day--12 months a year (I am a Security Director at one of the Tunica Casinos) I dont mind the rain, heat or cold, so far not enough snow / ice days to stop me.

My OEM rear tire ran out about 8500, put a metzler on it, replaced it at 23000 with another metzler---just put a c/t (general hp, 195/65/15) on the rear at appx 40800 and so far all ok at 42900 now---replaced OEM front tire at 21,000, put on a metzler, will need a new one in about 2 weeks. You will replace the rear tire 2 to 1 against the front. Ck tire pressures often --I run 3 or 4 pounds less than cold max pressure stated on the metzlers.(metzlers recommendation)---ck rear shock- mine was on about 3, I set it up to 5 and the rear metzlers have averaged about 16-17000 each

Replaced OEM brakes at about 18000(did not need them), just replaced front and rear again at 40000(needed them).

Debaffled too--the way I like to ride I get 44-46 mpg. Riding about 65 mph I can get 50mpg.
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Also remember when buying off the internet-----some tires even though they are new have been on a shelf for several years--if buying metzlers on the net have them send you an e mail with the date of manufacture on what you are buying---and agree to return at N?C if the tires ore "old"--- the rubber structure changes with time, like when sitting new on a shelf, etc---Metzler website can show you where the dates are on the tire---
 

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Tire mileage

Myself and my wife both use the Pirelli MT66 tires on the front and the rear. Currently she has 11,000 miles on the rear tire and still has 4/32" tread depth. I think she has around 5,000 miles on the front and no noticeable tread wear. By the way, these tires are great on wet roads and track very well on roads with rain grooves cut in them. We have been using the Pirellie's now exclusively for several years.
 
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