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Hello,I bought two weeks ago a VN900 from 2007 with 6000 miles,I am very satisfied about my engine but I have a small problem,when I start the engine for the first time I have to start it twice,two times for about 4 seconds and than he started to run. Afterthat he starts directly and the next day I have to start him twice again.Is there somebody who has the same experience or can tell me what the problem could be.I have guarante from my dealer but I am interested if it happens more


Greetings,Steef
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I have never heard of this. With the fuel injection, these bikes should start the first time, every time. The only times, mine has ever failed to start was when my battery needed charging, but that is not your issue. Also, once or twice my finger will slip off the start button and she may fail to start. But that is me making a mistake, not an engine issue. I would definitely take it to the dealer to see what is wrong if you still have warranty time left. It almost sounds like an old carburetor that is cold, but you don't have a carb. Fuel injection is supposed to cure the cold start issue. Good luck.
 

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Ok I will start off with some questions.
Describe your start up routine.
I find there is a startup procedure that if not followed you will have start problems.
My understanding is the engine starts right up but then dies. The second time it continues to run. Is this correct?
How long do you wait from turning key to pressing start button. Do you hold the throttle when you turn the key.

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Ok I will start off with some questions.
Describe your start up routine.
I find there is a startup procedure that if not followed you will have start problems.
My understanding is the engine starts right up but then dies. The second time it continues to run. Is this correct?
How long do you wait from turning key to pressing start button. Do you hold the throttle when you turn the key.

Oh and welcome to the forum and be aware NO PICS NO BIKE. We loooove the bike porn, (you know all the paint and chrome and nice curves)
Hello Bytehead,the startup procedure is,turn on the key than I wait a few seconds till de fuelpump stops,is on pressure ,than I push the start button,I don't touch the trolltle,than I let run the starter engine for about 4 seconds and wait let say 4 seconds and repeat the procedure and after 3 a 4 seconds till the engine starts. Grtjs,Steve
 

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Ok let me restate, you turn on key with hand off throttle, wait for the fuel pump to cycle, press the starter key for 4 seconds, no start, stop, wait 4 seconds, starts and runs fine the rest of the day. Correct.
First thing comes to mind is dirty injectors, run a can of injector cleaner thru, next is bad or fouled plug, replace plugs. After that I am doing a shotgun guess(just start checking things hoping you find something, do's not work very often, but blind pigs do find food.
 

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First, welcome to the forum. And we need pics to make sure you realy have a bike. You might be working on a car, we just don't know.

So, with my bike, I notice when the weather is cold my bike will die some times after start up. I will turn the key on and let it cycle. Hit the start button and it starts up fine. After a second or two it will die and I will hit the sarter again to sart her up.This time she runs fine. I think it is just that the idle may be set up a bit low, but no big issue. When it's warmer out, it doesn't really do that.

Is this the type of issue you are talking about?
 

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A friend of mine has an '09 900 Custom. We bought our bikes from the same dealer, within days of each other. HOWEVER, ever since his was brand new, it's always had a long crank. 3 seconds sometimes, and the ambient temperature doesn't seem to make any difference. It always starts, but it almost always takes a couple seconds, and sometimes even a couple tries.

Mine, on the other hand, starts on the first crank when it's 15 degrees outside. But my blinker wiring harness is crap. Go figure.
 

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Just another quick starting problem question. Last year I noticed trouble starting my 09 900 classics. I would turn the key on but not hear the fuel pump even kick on. I have checked the wiring. Is it possoble the actual ignition switch could be going bad?
 

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Some other ideas.........

If the temp is below 30, my 06 VN900D will catch and stall after a few seconds (I have my idle set low); always fires and stays running after that. I always wait until the FI system runs its course before trying the start button. Above 30, she fires right up and idles without problem.

Some other (remote) possibilities are: a very plugged air filter (no power/stumble getting on throttle while riding); junk or rust in the tank (would have throttling problems while riding); possible need to increase octane (would run poorly, ping during riding); valves out of adjustment (possibly opening too soon on compression, not getting air/fuel mix close enough to the plug - would have no power while riding); not a strong enough battery/stator (not enough juice to power FI and ignition/low headlight at idle, brightens on throttle); aftermarket ecu if still using stock air cleaner/pipes (wish I had that problem on my bike); condensation in the intake (near ocean/relatively high humidity, very cool weather this time of year in the Netherlands/no fuel mix near plug); when was the last time you revved up past 5000 rpm (old "blowing out the carbon" excuse; my 11 year-old daughter loves this one); riding a C50/M50, VTX or V-Star instead of a VN900 :eek:
 

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I have the same problem sometimes. But that is usually if I haven't rode in awhile and my battery is low.

Also at times I don't hear the pumps kick on. Usually that is when I have shutdown the bike when it is in gear, by just dropping the kickstand. I will turn on the key and since the bike is in gear still the pumps don't kick on. Once I put it into 'N' and cycle the key off and on it will cycle the pumps.
 

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Thanks for the reply. The fact that you have the same problem when your battery is low is encouraging. My family bought me a battery tender this year for Christmas. Hopefully this will solve my problem.
 

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Hello,I bought two weeks ago a VN900 from 2007 with 6000 miles,I am very satisfied about my engine but I have a small problem,when I start the engine for the first time I have to start it twice,two times for about 4 seconds and than he started to run. Afterthat he starts directly and the next day I have to start him twice again.Is there somebody who has the same experience or can tell me what the problem could be.I have guarante from my dealer but I am interested if it happens more


Greetings,Steef
from The Netherlands.
Hi Steef, welcome. My question is once the bike does start does it go to a fast idle for a minute or two before returning to a normal idle of about 900 RPM?
 
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