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Just putting out info that could help undecided riders who need new tires.

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**Installed on rear 3000 miles ago and on front 2000 miles ago.

**My bike is a 2014 Voyager.

**Had 7600 on rear and 9600 on front when replaced. Could have put 1 K more on each but I had trips coming up.

** Tires were bought from and installed by dealer. Total cost for rear was $298.00 and $225 for front, which included putting a 90 degree stem on the front (a must !!).

** Rear size is: 180/65/16.....Front size is: 130/90/B16

**I am very happy with the handling. The OEM tires did not handle well on the tar snakes (you know where they pour tar to fill cracks on the roadway!), well, that problem was solved with the MC II.

**Based on other reviews I expect to get 20 K miles on these tires and if that's the case I will stick with MC II from now on.

**Note of caution for those who never had new tires before. They will feel "slippery" for the first 100 miles.
 

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**Note of caution for those who never had new tires before. They will feel "slippery" for the first 100 miles.
Agreed! I got 20k miles from the same size II's on my last bike. And I wasn't riding easy ;)

You can reduce the slipperiness of new tires by wiping down the tread area with an alcohol soaked rag or washing it with dish soap.
 

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You can reduce the slipperiness of new tires by wiping down the tread area with an alcohol soaked rag or washing it with dish soap.
Just goes to show you that even at 65 years old, after 50 years of riding and countless new tires I can still learn. I always thought that the slippery feeling was something you had to put up with.

D-Dub, Thanks for the tip!
 

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Just putting out info that could help undecided riders who need new tires.

Facts:

**Installed on rear 3000 miles ago and on front 2000 miles ago.

**My bike is a 2014 Voyager.

**Had 7600 on rear and 9600 on front when replaced. Could have put 1 K more on each but I had trips coming up.

** Tires were bought from and installed by dealer. Total cost for rear was $298.00 and $225 for front, which included putting a 90 degree stem on the front (a must !!).

** Rear size is: 180/65/16.....Front size is: 130/90/B16

**I am very happy with the handling. The OEM tires did not handle well on the tar snakes (you know where they pour tar to fill cracks on the roadway!), well, that problem was solved with the MC II.

**Based on other reviews I expect to get 20 K miles on these tires and if that's the case I will stick with MC II from now on.

**Note of caution for those who never had new tires before. They will feel "slippery" for the first 100 miles.
You got a lot more than most on their stockers. 5,000 and my rear was toast and with a trip coming up I just changed both. While the rear wasn't bald there was no tread left. I prob could have gotten a thousand or two more with the front but I figured might as well do the set.
 

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Just go to show you that even at 65 years old, after 50 years of riding and countless new tires we can still learn. I always thought that the slippery feeling was something you had to put up with.

D-Dub, Thanks for the tip!
You're welcome. Just info I've picked up from others, over the years.

Tire builders use release agents in their molds to prevent tires from sticking in them. Slick stuff.
 

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The few times I have had a dealer mount tires, the tech does a scrub in ride. Just an excuse to beat on the bikes me thinks. :)

I decided to run the Excedra MAX on the front and Commander II on the rear. Any tire that can get over 20,000 miles can't be that sticky and I enjoy the curves. I guess I just didn't want to find out if the front was sticky enough.
 

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Agreed! I got 20k miles from the same size II's on my last bike. And I wasn't riding easy ;)

You can reduce the slipperiness of new tires by wiping down the tread area with an alcohol soaked rag or washing it with dish soap.
Learn somtin new every day,just went out washed the new sneakers,50 miles on em
 

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I just put the Michelin Commander II on the front and I did the rear on May 18th, the bad part is that I bought the bike new on Feb 26th this year. So in less than 3 months I replaced the rear and less than 4 month for the front, hopefully I can finish the season before switching the rear again.
 
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