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I thought I would ask you guys/gals.

I originally had a pair of River Road pants but they are just huge on me since my weight lose. (70 pounds and still dropping)

I am shopping for some more pants to fit better. I was looking at the Tourmaster Flex pants. They seem to have a double liner for water and insulation. I also looked at the over pants by tourmaster that Roman did the review on. I have also checked into a pair of Scorpion Deuce pants. I actually order a pair but they was to small for me.

Does anyone have some they have, and liked?
I not a speed rider but do like a little protection.
I was thinking of a textile for bearthable features in summer.
Should I buy the winter and summer pants seperate?

Thanks for any help or suggestions!
 

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I really really like tourmaster overpants. They are vented, and waterproof. They also have a VERY adjustable waist so they fit over anything you've got on and can sinch down tighter if you lose more weight. They can certainly be worn just as pants too if you'd prefer that over overpants, in that case just order one size down.

http://www.jpcycles.com/product/114-0307?utm_source=none&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&gclid=CPPKgcnC3rMCFYpFMgod2jcA7w

As far as protection, it's a 600D shell with 1680D impact panels. That makes them light and breathable but protect well where it counts. I wear mine year round, from triple digits to near freezing. I really like them in the summer because I can wear shorts underneath and just take them off when I get where I'm going!
 

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I bought a pair of Fieldsheer Mercury 2.0 pants from Revzilla. I like them. They have good protection built in, have permanent waterproofing liner, and a removable thermal liner. I have not worn them above [email protected], but have had them down to the 30's. Take a look.
 

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Tj, try them sometimes in the upper temps. My legs get sweaty in those upper temps for sure, but with just bluejeans on they seem to get hotter. Shorts on underneath lightweight overpants seems to be the way to go. They breathe, but they also seem to keep all of the heat from the engine off of you. I've grown so fond of mine I don't think I've ridden without them since last year!

I've kind of found that, in the upper temps (my current record is 113), you are going to be uncomfortable, period. It's stupid hot, no matter what. Keeping your neck cool is a big deal (I use those frog togg rags underneath a riding jacket, wrapped around my neck. Underneath the jacket to keep the wind from drying them out, but they REALLY cool you off), keeping your skin covered is a big deal too. There's a reason folks in the desert wear a lot of clothes. Keeping the sun, and the hot air (which is hotter than your body temperature) off of you is important.

Sheesh, I WISH I still had to deal with hot temps and blaring sun. Pulling off to get some water or getting excited when the sun starts to go down and you get some relief. Psh, now I hurry up and get home before the sun goes down because then it starts to get super cold AND the deer are out moving around... yikes.
 

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Romans: not to hijack or divert this thread, but I wear full gear all the time (ATTGATT). Therefore, I do fully expect to buy a separate pair of summer lighter weight pants, and will certainly look into the neck-cooler you mentioned. The heavier overpants do get pretty hot over jeans. I am just generally not a "shorts" kind of guy, haha. Thanks,
Tom
 

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Wow, figured you would be swamped with suggestions by now. I'm using a discontinued RoadGear leather model, similar to these. Mine do not unzip to the hip, would be a little easier if they did. They have synthetic side and crotch panels, breath very well, are cooler in the summer than I thought they would be. Look good enough to leave on with shorts underneath when the temps dictate.
 

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Mine do not, but I know there are models that do. I was looking at some of those until I got these on a discontinued sale. Too cheap to pass up!
 

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Cheap is good!
Long as it is worth something when get it.
I know the pair I have now does. It makes a difference in the Cooler days.
I like the ones Roman showed.
 

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A motorcycle clothing and gear shop just opened up. It's a chain...name slips my mind right now...but sh!ts expensive. I got some gloves for $40 (marked on sale from $80) and they're nice, but ouch. They have a good price on boots and a couple pairs that I liked for <$80 and then some nice riding pants with built in knees and other point protection but like $100+. I mean, I like it and ill end up getting some stuff over time, but protection ain't cheap. Then again, neither is new skin.
 

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I have trouble with rain pants MELTING on the exhaust. This has happened with Frog Toggs. I am thinking of putting a patch on them in the right place, but I do not want to have to clean up that mess again. I am thinking only leather will do...

Suggestions for rain pant covers?

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Tourmaster Venture for me. Love them. Except for middle of summer, they are great for the other three seasons. Have a thermal liner, and rain liner. The waist is adjustable so I wear jeans, shorts, or thermal underwear depending on the weather. Tourmaster Venture Air for summer. They are the same pant but in a mesh. My riding buddy wears those all four seasons, but they are a little to heavy(weight wise) for me.

A note if you buy women's...buy the talls if you can as the inseam on the regular is about 30.5"
 

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I have trouble with rain pants MELTING on the exhaust. This has happened with Frog Toggs. I am thinking of putting a patch on them in the right place, but I do not want to have to clean up that mess again. I am thinking only leather will do...

Suggestions for rain pant covers?

zeddock
I use a Velcro type strap on the right calf to keep my rain pant from touching the exhaust.
 

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Tourmaster Venture for me. Love them. Except for middle of summer, they are great for the other three seasons. Have a thermal liner, and rain liner. The waist is adjustable so I wear jeans, shorts, or thermal underwear depending on the weather. Tourmaster Venture Air for summer. They are the same pant but in a mesh. My riding buddy wears those all four seasons, but they are a little to heavy(weight wise) for me.

A note if you buy women's...buy the talls if you can as the inseam on the regular is about 30.5"
Those don't melt?
 

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I have trouble with rain pants MELTING on the exhaust. This has happened with Frog Toggs. I am thinking of putting a patch on them in the right place, but I do not want to have to clean up that mess again. I am thinking only leather will do...

Suggestions for rain pant covers?

zeddock
Somewhere I've read about someone putting an ironing board cover patch on the inside of the leg of Frogg Toggs to prevent the melting. The new ones I've looked at by Frogg Togg already have the high heat patch sewn in at the factory. I wear the Tourmaster overpants and really like them.
 

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Post a picture?
I can't quite see how that would fully keep it clear of the exhaust.

Thanx!

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For as little as I get caught in the rain...yes. A picture? Sorry. It's just a simple Velcro strap that I bought at a sewing store. BTW...I wear tourmaster rain suit in addition to the tourmaster pants as I switch up between the pants and leather chaps depending on my mood for the day. Chaps are not water proof. Anyway....it works for me and you wanted suggestions. :)
 

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I wear a textile pull over pant made by Vanson. Other companies make such pants. I wear them over jeans. They have minimal padding.

Get some that are "step through", meaning they have a zipper that goes all the way from the bottom to the top of the waist on one side.

I also wear a pair of Vanson "jean pants" that are snug fitting leather pants. They have some padding in the hips and knees. I also have a two piece leather suit, complete with knee pucks. Usually worn on my sport bike, but sometimes on the big old V2K.
 

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If you're looking mainly for protection under any pants you wear, I suggest Bohn Armor. These are under-pants that are mesh, so they're breathable and cool, but they also have pockets for crash armor. I wear them under jeans, and they are not noticeable while still being comfortable. Expensive, but very high quality. I ride AGATT and never go without them on.
 

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Couple suggestions here. I have a pair of Draggin' Jeans that I like a lot. They're made from a quite heavy, yet soft denim material with kevlar panels sewn into the seat, hips and thighs. Some say they are hot, but I never found that to be the case. And they look like a regular pair of jeans off the bike. Not waterproof, but a set of light raingear works well over them.

Second is First Gear Hypertex mesh pants. I have a pair that I like and are good for all seasons. The outer is is textile mesh, with an adjustable waistband, and the inner liner zips in and out and is wind and waterproof. For some reason, they're pretty warm when it's cold out, worn over a pair of jeans or expedition weight long johns. When it's hot out, you can wear just the mesh outer over a pair of shorts. And they come with removable armor pads in the knees and hips. I've found that FG stuff tends to run a bit small in their sizing.
 
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