Power Commander V Question

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cwby13

Discussion Starter · Jan 28, 2015

So I know there is a lot of information about the PCV but I can't find the info I am looking for. So here it is. I am going to buy the PCV w/ ign for my 2011 900 custom. My question is, is it beneficial to buy the Advanced O2 Optimizer dual channel product as well. I have vance and hines pipes that have spots for o2 sensors so I could easily hook it up. I am just wondering if anyone has this set up and if I should go that route. I would like to not have to take it in and get it dyno if possible.

Thanks Jeff

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pumper

· #2 · Jan 28, 2015

Some say that our watercool engine will not gain so mutch from dual channel.

cwby13

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jan 28, 2015

What about the auto tuner?

thefreudy

· #4 · Jan 28, 2015

I have the autotune module along with the PC V, and I would highly recommend it, if you have the available funds. I have a hypercharger, along with the V&H Staggered Slash pipes, and I have ridden in changing conditions several times with good results. With the autotune module, it is constantly upgrading the mapping to optimize to your current conditions. On a recent trip to Cherohala Skyway and the other wonderful roads around it, I had no issues with different altitudes and temperature ranges throughout that two day ride. I have no complaints at all with the setup I am running, and have been very pleased with the consistent performance in a multitude of conditions.

Romper

· #5 · Jan 29, 2015

thefreudy - did you need to install O2 sensors on those pipes (or anything else) to accommodate the PCV?

Romper

thefreudy

· #6 · Jan 29, 2015 (Edited)

Yes sir, you do have to install the the O2 sensor into the pipes. Installation is pretty straightforward. I found the instructions included to be pretty good, and there are videos on youtube available as well. Everything else is pretty much plug and go. Hardest part is figuring out where you are going to mount the modules themselves. I will take a picture of how I have mine and post it later today.

cwby13

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jan 29, 2015

Thanks thefreudy, very good information. I am going to buy the PCV and autotuner once my taxes come back. Can't wait to get my bike back together and start riding again.

RidersDiscount

· #8 · Jan 29, 2015

cwby13 said:
Thanks thefreudy, very good information. I am going to buy the PCV and autotuner once my taxes come back. Can't wait to get my bike back together and start riding again.

Shoot me a PM once you are ready, we would love an opportunity to earn your business.

Romper

· #9 · Jan 30, 2015 (Edited)

thanks.

Is the autotune still good / effective for general constant terrain riding only - such as city streets?

ROmper

Romper

· #10 · Feb 1, 2015

Romper said:
thanks.

Is the autotune still good / effective for general constant terrain riding only - such as city streets?

ROmper

Any thoughts on this question anyone?

Romper

thefreudy

· #11 · Feb 4, 2015

I personally think there is value to be had for the consistent optimization that the autotune's function provides, regardless of terrain. While it is not required, it removes the necessity to reload different maps to the PCV to compensate for changing conditions, be they weather/time of year, or small changes such as fuel quality/octane rating. But, I am sure that there are some on here that would argue that updating the maps isn't very hard, and the autotune module isn't worth the price of admission. I say look at all the options and figure out what you are the most comfortable with. I prefer the 'set it and forget it' option, but YMMV.

pumper

· #12 · Feb 6, 2015

Is there a chance that you can show us/me the map/maps there has been made???
I getting PCV my self and will play a little with diff. maps

whiting57

· #13 · Feb 7, 2015 (Edited)

I run a cobra power pro ... auto tuning processor, hypercharger and freedom performance pipes on my custom ... my classic is stock. The power pro is straight forward, while around 5 bills is well worth the money ... its a easy install, no o2 sensors, no mapping, for any riding conditions and elevations and reads present conditions at 80 times per second and self adjusts for optimal performance. I used to be a power commander guy, the power pro is a more simple install. My custom pulls like a 16 year old school boy and screams like a scalded cat.

whiting57

· #14 · Feb 7, 2015 (Edited)

I am sure that there are some on here that would argue that updating the maps isn't very hard, and the autotune module isn't worth the price of admission

when you add in the price of the unit ... dyno charges etc, there is no difference ... when you start using others maps, unless they live where you do ... its just about NFG. Getting a map from "Joe Blow" who lives in El Centro Ca (20 feet below sea level) and using it in Denver CO, just does not makes sense to me ... but they will save a dollar or 2.

I chuckle at every post on here that I read from those with borrowed maps. I have seen what happens when you ride a bike with a P/C mapped in Brantford Ontario Canada and is ridden to the Grand Canyon .... while bike ran OK ... in the higher elevations, it had no mustard at all. If you are riding local only, or your bike is a garage queen, it should not matter ..... if the bike is dyno'd.

There is a variation on pricing ... shop around people, you should pay around $500 ..... no more

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pumper

· #15 · Feb 11, 2015

Hi thefreudy.

Is there a chance that you can show us/me the map/maps there has been
made???
I getting PCV my self and will play a little with diff. maps

thefreudy

· #16 · Feb 11, 2015

I have included two links for the Dynojet Research website. The first is for the software you will install on your computer, which allows you to manipulate the maps and load them as needed.

http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/Downloads/powercommander_downloads.aspx?ProdType=PCV

The second link is to a database of maps that Dynojet has for the PCV. It has fields that you enter different criteria in that will filter which ones will work for your particular bike and equipment setup.

(http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/MapLookUp/powercommander_map_lookup.aspx)

Also, you can get also try to get maps from other folks that may have your same equipment set up. I haven't put a map on in a long time, as the Autotune module takes away the necessity to do that, for the most part. There are great youtube videos available on loading and changing out the maps, updating the firmware on the module(s), etc. That is my generally my choice for how-to these days. If I am not mistaken, Dynojet Research also has some videos on the website for all their products too.

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pumper

· #17 · Feb 11, 2015

I have all that.
I need a map that auto tune has made. Thats just to se the diff.

pumper

· #18 · Feb 11, 2015

Well its not easy to pull out maps from pcv software.
Fore me it isnt.

Ndr

· #19 · Feb 12, 2015

For anyone still looking....

You can pick up a Cobra PowerPro Auto Tune at Amazon for about $440 right now...
This is the cheapest I'm currently seeing.
[ame]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004C24GIO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/ame]

pumper

· #20 · Feb 12, 2015

I have the dobeck gen 2 and it works ok. But i got the pcv because i like all those things you can do with it.

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