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I am going to t look at 2 bikes in Monday, a 2010 Nomad 1700 (25k miles) and a 2012 Voyager (2500 miles). What I am hoping that some of the resident pros here can tell me is:

1. Anything specific to these bikes I should look for when looking at them?

2. Anything that seems to be a general consensus "must change" or "must have" right away? (For instance when I had my C50 the seat was a known POS that pretty much had to be changed or suffer uncomfortably after 20 miles)

Being new to these models I look to those who have been in the saddle for awhile for advice before I pull the trigger.
 

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I have a 2010 Nomad and like it. There are some issues you should be aware of though. Heat coming off the engine was one of my 1st and biggest issues. I was able to solve that for the most part. If you get the 2010 let me know and I'll fill you in on what I did. 2ndly the bike sits higher the other bikes I've had. I have a 29" inseam and found it an issue to stand flat footed sometimes depending on the roadway contour. A good set of riding boots with a 1 to 1 1/2' heal helps there. The bike before my Nomad was a Suzuki C50 and I got great MPG. The Nomad was a little disappointing when I realized I was only getting 33 to 36 MPG around town. I do get 40 to 45 MPG out on the open road which is a lot better. The Nomad is a little over 800 lbs so it can be intimidating at first. It does ride real nice and has a lot of power especially when riding 2 up. The only other thing I'm dealing with and trying to over come are the over sized passenger floorboards. When taking off from a stop especially going up a grade my calves hit them and sometimes it gives you a good jolt. I've taken the floorboard brackets to a welding shop and had them move back a couple of inches. Also I've been educating my wife on when to flip them up out of my way. The saddlebags are bid you'll love the storage space in them. Hope all of this helps. Over all the Nomad a nice bike.
 

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Thanks that is some helpful information. I will be sure to pay attention to the height as I am also a 29 inch inseam and only 5'6". I have been a little concerned for the heavier weight from the C50 especially when 2 up.

Did you find that there was anything you felt was missing or really needed upgrading? Both of these bikes are priced a bit more then I planned to spend which is still ok as long as I don't then need to drop another grand right away on MODs. I am hoping that these will be comfortable to ride right away without dropping more $ for seats, windshields, etc
 

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I moved up from an 800 classic vulcan to my 2012 Voyager and was also concerned about the added weight, but once moving, it get lighter quick. Being height challenged, you may consider the earlier nomad kickstand if you get the Voyager, its a bit longer and makes the bike easier to standup. I've got you beat by a couple inches overall and sometimes I am on my toes at a stop, and rarely flat footed on both feet while seated. I believe the 09 and 10 model 1700s had a recall for the ECU, make sure its been done, any dealer should be able to tell you by the VIN number. If I had it to do again, I sure would. No regrets here. If no proof they have been done, fluid changes should be done, brake, clutch, oil, and coolant.
 

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Here are some of what I considered desirable upgrades that I did:
Mustang Seat, RIV-Elchrn Electric Horn (the stock horn just isn't loud enough for when someone cuts you off), Kuryakyn Longhorn Offset Dually Highway Pegs
Cobra Solo Luggage Rack, 7" Chrome Headlight Visor, National Speedometer Cowl (Helps to keep the glare off the windshield at night from the lited display). I also did a couple of other mods, but they were more person touches. Rick is right about the fluids. I had all mine done around 14k.
 

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I think aside from the weight my biggest concerns are seat and reach to bars. On my C50 I added pullback risers which made a huge difference for a short dude like me. And that bike a Mustang seat (or equiv) was mandatory. cost of a seat replacement is pretty substantial so that has me a bit worried. Guess I will have to play it by feel when I see the bikes tomorrow and hope that seeing at dealer can give me a decent enough perspective.
 

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The stock seat on my Nomad wasn't bad. In fact I had the bike 2 years before getting the Mustang seat for it. When I had my C50 the Mustang seat was must have. The stock seat on that was not good. I didn't add the risers on the C50 and don't have them on the Nomad but like the idea for a future purchase. Getting on the bike and test riding it will be your best bet. If you get the bike you can always look for a use Mustang seat on this or other sites like ebay and Craig's list. Good luck with it.
 

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What is the difference in price?

I have A Nomad and Voyager and every one talks about them being the same but in reality for as similar as they are they could not be more different.

Both of mine are 09's so it really is apples to apples. They are both fantastic machines. Although many have made a touring platform out of the Nomad It is better suited for local use.

The Voyager, on the other hand, is a long range machine. They both have hard bags and cruise control, but the Voyagers tour pack, frame mounted fairing, and lowers, not to mention gauges. If you are a true motor head there is nothing more important while you are tooling down the road than actual gauges that measure mundane things like RPM,and how much fuel is in the tank not miles to empty given current throttle position.

Not to mention the 2012 Voyager will have the KAMS standard. Even though my 09's do not have the KAMS the heat from them has been far less than a 2012 Harley Ultra I rented 2 years ago.
 

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2010 voyager here and love it
the fact that the fairing is mounted to the frame make a big difference with the wind
i still have the staock seats and have 52000 km on it
the other mods are nice but more for fun than a needed thing
changing exhausts fuel processor and air intake do make a lot of diffence to power ,fuel economy and HEAT
in fact it droped the heat factor by almost half

rays throttle mod is great as well
 

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I can't speak for th precise model but I can tell you a bit about a 2010 1700.
It's going to run hot. It sounds like you runover a garbqge can when you shift from 1st to 2nd. (I hear they have corrected this) Set to specs the belt has a history of being very loud. I fought the belt adjustment most of last year. It pretty much ruined my riding experience last spring and summer. It's fixed now.
With the bad news covered ... On my classic anyway the seat is tolerable. It hasnt stranded me and I really love this bike on the interstate. The OD keeps the engine from feelng overworked. It isnt fast but its a big boy bike designed for two up riding. I replaced a VTX with this one two years ago and had a bit of buyers remorse but have worked past it. I now have a lot of.confidence in this bike. I can and will take it anywhere. Good.luck making your decision.
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2010 voyager here and love it
the fact that the fairing is mounted to the frame make a big difference with the wind
i still have the staock seats and have 52000 km on it
the other mods are nice but more for fun than a needed thing
changing exhausts fuel processor and air intake do make a lot of diffence to power ,fuel economy and HEAT
in fact it droped the heat factor by almost half

rays throttle mod is great as wIell


I concur with Connonballs. Even when I was looking at a Nomad I knew I "had to have" fairings.

Since I like to tour I opted for a custom seat. It wasn't that the stock seat was uncomfortable, I just didn't think it would be up to the task of multi-day trips. Long days on the road are now done in comfort. :D
 

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I am going to t look at 2 bikes in Monday, a 2010 Nomad 1700 (25k miles) and a 2012 Voyager (2500 miles). What I am hoping that some of the resident pros here can tell me is:

1. Anything specific to these bikes I should look for when looking at them?

2. Anything that seems to be a general consensus "must change" or "must have" right away? (For instance when I had my C50 the seat was a known POS that pretty much had to be changed or suffer uncomfortably after 20 miles)

Being new to these models I look to those who have been in the saddle for awhile for advice before I pull the trigger.
So Sodapop, which one did you like?
 

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OK time for an update. Looked at both of the 2 I planned on and I have eliminated both from consideration. The Nomad was ok but had it's fair share of scuffs and such and I felt for the asking price it was not in that good of condition. Now, the Voyager was AMAZING. Beautiful gold and white and not a scratch. I mean nothing. even inside the bags and trunk were pristine. Only 2370 miles on it and it looked like it was showroom floor condition. Why did I pass on a beauty then. Simple dislike for the "dealer" and the financing they wanted to try and push. When I got there it was a "dealer" that worked out of a shared building with an upholstery shop. Even the phone number when called was answered by the other shop and if you did not know you would have no idea there were a few dozen used bikes for sale. I decided I did not want to do business when I did not get calls back or timely responses.

Now for the Good and better. While I was there I decided to go 2 miles up the road to a real dealer that had a 2012 Voyager advertised as well. This one is 5300 miles and $1,000 more money. I have been dealing with them for 2 days and waiting to hear from them tomorrow if they are willing to accept my offer and make a deal. HOWEVER, while going back and forth today I got a call from a third dealer I had inquired with. This dealer is more convenient location and overall more responsive. They have a 2010 Voyager that would save me about $3,000. In addition I am weighing in on going for a little older and a little less machine to save some money and keep the Mrs happy about the bank account. The other bike is a 2007 V Star 1300. I suspect I will end up on either the 2010 Voyager or the 2007 V Star and the deciding factor will be how financing looks on each. I know Mrs Sodapop will be more comfortable on the Voyager but I also know she will like the effect the V Star has on the bank account. Since more of our rides will be semi local or one day rides vs long trips and several days at a time I think the V Star will work for the majority of our riding although I know that it is not going to be anything like the comfort and convenience of the Voyager.

So Wednesday should bring in the information to start making a decision and see where we end up.
 

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If you can test ride both. They are both used so there shouldn't be a problem unless you don't have an mc endorsement on your license.
 

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I am not too familiar with the V-Star but can attest to the comfort of the Voyager, and the like of the passenger, I had a 2006 1500 classic Vulcan and after one Demo ride on a Voyager was told to get one....(POOR ME):drool::D:)

Now for the difference from the 2010 and the 2012, the only change they made in 2012 is the addition of the KAMS (Kawasaki air management system), and there is a big difference in the heat felt by the rider and passenger. A friend with a 2010 just had the KAMS installed on his, and cannot believe the difference, but at a cost of $400.00 plus labor, about another $400.00, so not sure what price ranges you are in but the 2012 and newer have the KAMS. JMO

Good luck on which ever one you decide...
 

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Well the verdict is in........ I am the happy owner of a 2010 Voyager. Only had like a 30 minute ride home in moderate traffic but already see exactly what everyone is talking about on the heat. My legs were toasty. I can see a heat shield in my future until I can afford the KAMs but with a $3k difference in price over the 2012 I was looking at and this had colors I liked better and driver backrest, I am happy to wait a bit to install the KAMs with the money I saved.

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Nice looking bike. If you look at my photos there are pics of the leather heat shields I made to defect the heat and keep your legs cooler. They should help you out until you get the KAMs.:):D
 

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Nice looking bike. If you look at my photos there are pics of the leather heat shields I made to defect the heat and keep your legs cooler. They should help you out until you get the KAMs.:):D
I will take a look tomorrow when i am on my computer. You offer them for sale or have a how to write up?
 
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