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Ordered commander ll tires today for my custom. Closest available size for the rear is 170/80/15 as apposed to the 180/70/15. I know they are 10mm narrower and 10mm taller. Has anyone else used this size for rear? What is your opinion?


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Ordered commander ll tires today for my custom. Closest available size for the rear is 170/80/15 as apposed to the 180/70/15. I know they are 10mm narrower and 10mm taller. Has anyone else used this size for rear? What is your opinion?


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I have seen some posts over here by folks who used this size. I think the experiences were mostly positive. Someone else also told me that the Commander IIs are great tires.

I did lot of research a few weeks back as I was looking for a better option over the stock Dunlop. I decided for the Bridgestone Exedra MAX - and I could not be happier. What a difference compared to the Dunlops!
 

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Hi Kwindy,

I have had a set of commander II's on my LT since early summer and I am very happy with them. The taller profile helped speedometer error and they feel more connected to the road than the oem dunlops.

Enjoy

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Thanks for the reply's. I had my head set on the metz's but my bike shop talked me into commander ll's. Stock dunny's still have plenty of tread left at 9k km's but i got the bike at 6k km's and not sure if bike was kept outside alot but there in an abundance of cracks between the tread. I hate not knowing so i will feel better with new rubber being a newb. It will be nice to help correct the speedo thing. Taller profile should help with baron front pulley i ordered aswell to lower rpms a tad on hwy.


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Commanders are GREAT!!

I put mine on a couple of months ago and I really love these tires. They are incredible. It rains a LOT here in Louisiana so I wanted a good wet weather tire, and this one is it. I did the front and rear, and while the rear dropped very slightly, it sure feels better. My tires don't wander on tar snakes and gravel like the Dunlops used to. I FEEL safer and the bike handles better, so it's a great deal. You will love them! Avons are good also, but the Michellin tires are a GREAT choice.
 

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Hi Kwindy,

Can you possibly show us any pics how the 170/80 tire looks on the bike?

What size did you use in the front?
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Strangly enough the 170 is just as wide as the stock dunny 180 but i did read somewhere that the 170 on the stock rim balloons a bit more and even creates a bigger contact path. ( i dont know if thats true but tire is exactly the same distance away as 180 was from belt gaurd)
I put 80/90 on the front as the 90/90 is not availabe for comm ll.
i had to cancell baron front pulley. With the 170 rear tire, i am left with only 1/2 inch clearance on inner fender. The bigger front pulley will shorten belt and move rear tire even more forward and leave no clearance but i should be happy with the difference the bigger tire will make with hwy rpm and speedo correction. I hope.


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It's amazing. Indeed, the 170 looks not that narrow at all. I would probably not even say that this is not a stock-size tire.

Is the 0.5 inch inner clearance an issue? It sounds like is getting close, but I guess it is a fixed distance so unless you get a stone or something hard in there, you should be fine, right?
 

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Should be good to go. Saying that, side clearance would be less of a concern to me than tread to hard parts clearance. As the tire spins faster, it ballons slightly, get thinner and taller, though probably not enough to even notice. You should be just fine.
 

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FINALLY got out for first ride of the season tonight. Crappiest/latest spring EVER!!! I love these Commander II's!!! The bigger size has fixed the speedo issue perfectly as per my gps. Not looking for another gear either and the handling is a huge improvment. I highly recomend these tires and the size change. I am a happy rider!!


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I put a set on my VV about a week ago. A little over 400 miles later....wow, what an improvement over the OEM stones. Best ride and control ever. got both for under $300 includes shipping. I'll always buy Michelin Commanders. Step up and buy the best. I only got 6100 miles out of my rear stone.
 

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I just installed them on my 900 Classic, replacing the stock Dunlops after 7200 miles. I went for the 170/80/15 on the rear, cutting the speedometer error in half.
Handling is great, but I am also running the tire pressure much closer to the factory recommended settings. The stock Dunlops had plenty of tread left at the sides but were almost worn to the minimum at the center of the tread. I think this was mostly due to running 38 psi or more in them. Really doesn't make much sense to wear out your tire's tread where you need it most, as well as reducing the tire's contact area by overinflation.
The Commanders handle wonderfully, but comparing them to, and bad-mouthing the old, worn out stock Dunlops is not really fair.
I don't care for the fact that the Michelins have no balance dot or indicator to help position them on the rim. I have heard that the small barcode label in the bead area is supposed to be the "balance dot", but can't confirm that. The rear tire took 6 and 3/4 ounces to balance it.
Actually took about 2 and 7/8 oz, see my correction below.
 

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I'm running a commander II 170/80, With the baron 34 tooth front pulley. No clearance issues noted. Nice improvement. Really lowered the R.P.M.s at 70+!!
 

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Did you balance it yourself?
The local independent m/c shop mounted the tire and balanced it while I was watching. He was using a balancer that was exactly like the Harbor Freight m/c balance I have at home. After he had taped on about two ounces, I could see that the wheel was still "heavy" on one side, but the guy proclaimed it balanced and I was out of there.
When I got home, I put it on my balancer to confirm that is was still way off.
I had the original 3 oz weights that Kawasaki had crimped around the spokes to originally balance the factory tires, so I peeled his weights off, and put a factory weight on. Then, I added the second 3 oz weight. After using those 6 oz, I still had to tape on another 3/4 oz to completely balance the wheel.
If it wasn't such a pain to take the wheel off the bike, I would remove it, break the bead, and rotate the tire 180 degrees on the wheel and check the balance again.

Oops, check my correction in the post below.

 

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Oops, my bad....

I have a correction to make. I checked with the Kawasaki manual, and their largest crimp-on weight is actually 30 grams. It looked like it was mark 3oz.
30 grams is 1.06 oz, so two of these weights, plus another 3/4 oz equals just under 3 oz. Sorry for the mistake.
 

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That sounds great. It seems that balancing is not such a hard task if you have enough patience, I guess.

But it is amazing that a so-called professional gives you an unbalanced wheel and presumably charges for it. :eek:
 
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