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Thanks for the work, photos, and posting. Those pics reveal major reasons why I've been using Purolator PureOne oil filters since the first oil change at 600 miles.
 

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Have you done the Fram filter, by chance?
Many other folks have and I have seen the results. The Fram PH6017A is a cross to the Kaw OEM filter and its internals are sub-par compared to the OEM filter and way sub-par compared to Aftermarket Automotive filters. I have previously used Purolator PL14610 & PL14612 filters in place of the Kaw OEM filter. My current favorite now is the Purolator PL14459 filter. The spec picture, shows them in yellow. The new ones on the shelf now are blue in color.
 

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Thanks for the info. I put a Fram on it before putting it away for the winter, but looks like I may want to reconsider that in the spring.

Are all the Frams subpar? I got one of the higher dollar Frams, not the cheapo one.
 

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What are the advantages of the PL14459 over the PL14610? I realize the 610 is a little longer, but I simply add a little more oil.

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Are all the Frams subpar? I got one of the higher dollar Frams, not the cheapo one.
I am only aware of the Fram PH6017A motorcycle specific filter being a cross for the Kaw OEM filter. On the automotive front, the Fram Automotive filters have proven to be below average in that arena as well. So, that is why I suppose I, and others, have not tried to find a Fram alternative to any other filters.

Once you are done with the hi-dollar Fram, hack it up and let us know what you find.
 

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What are the advantages of the PL14459 over the PL14610? I realize the 610 is a little longer, but I simply add a little more oil.

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The PL14459 has a 3psi lower max bypass pressure that is more in line with Kawasaki, Yamaha, & Honda OEM filters. The PL14459 is a short fat filter. It is about the same height as the PL14612 but 1/2" greater in diameter for its entire length. This means that it will hold about the same amount or greater of oil than the long skinny PL14610. Being this physical size means it more easily fits more bikes and it is easier to grip with your hands when installing/removing.
 

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Du Ron, do you have any experience with K&N (303) filters? I use K&N a) because of the nut on top for ease of removal and b) because it is a premium construction filter. Not sure about b, that is just what K&N say, maybe just to try and justify the $15 price.

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Du Ron, do you have any experience with K&N (303) filters? I use K&N a) because of the nut on top for ease of removal and b) because it is a premium construction filter. Not sure about b, that is just what K&N say, maybe just to try and justify the $15 price.

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The K&N filter is of better construction than most motorcycle oil filters. K&N website lists the drainback valve as being made of Nitrile. Silicone is top of the line. K&N does not list a bypass pressure specification so it is hard to compare data on these filters against other manufacturers who do release data. The K&N filter is not advertised as being made in the USA. The K&N is a "contract" made filter. At last sourcing the KN303 was manufactured by Champion. This is no big deal as the Kaw OEM filter is also a "contract" made filter manufactured by Denso. At $15.00 per filter, it is up to you to decide if it is worth that to you. One could say that it only costs $1.00 more than an OEM filter available from my dealer and the K&N is of notably better construction for the data that is released for it. On the other hand, if Aftermarket Automotive filters are available to you in a convenient manner at a store nearer you, for a lower price, and those filters are made in the USA, then their use may well be considered an advantage to you.
The K&N nut on top does have its advantages and if that makes life easier then it is well worth the price. So far, I have never needed a nut on top of a filter to get the filter off even when I am removing a filter that was put on by a ham-fisted clod with an impact wrench. I have many oil filter caps, wrenches, and bands so a nut on top of a filter is not a bonus point for me.
 

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Du Rron, Thanks for the reply, glad to know K&N is a quality filter. I have one band type filter wrench which is pretty much useless on the VN900. I will stick with K&N being a quality filter, the few extra $ per oil change is worth it for ease of removal to me.

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I'll stick with the Supertech 6607 since Walmart carries them again.Have one on the bike and six on the shelf ready to go.
 

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Great thread. Du-Ron, after reading your post I picked up a couple of the Purolator PL14459 filters at Advance Auto for $5.00 each. Since my stator just failed last week, changing out the oil and filter will be needed anyway once that repair is complete. The filter looks to be a great replacement for oem. The two I picked up were yellow, ftr.
 

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I cut open a Kawasaki OEM 16097-0008 oil filter and got different results. I didn't have any light pass through the bypass valve and couldn't see any indication where the bypass valve would not seal properly. Even if the bypass valve spring was defective and only applied half spring tension, no light can pass through it. However, I did have light pass through the filter element, but that is normal. I had to be very careful where I positioned the light because the bypass valve is small and getting the position wrong would point the light at the filter element where light can shine through. The body of the bypass valve fit snug against the filter element and appeared to be normal. There were no indications at all that the filter would not perform as it should.

I think you need more sample filters to properly evaluate a filter brand. I also think the filters should still be within their service life.

The Kawasaki OEM 16097-0008 oil filter I cut open is off a 2012 900 Classic LT. The bike has a little under 6000 miles. I don't know the service history of the motorcycle or how long the filter has been used. I just changed it out and replaced it with a FRAM PH6017A.
 

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I have previously used Purolator PL14610 & PL14612 filters in place of the Kaw OEM filter.

My current favorite now is the Purolator PL14459 filter. The spec picture, shows them in yellow. The new ones on the shelf now are blue in color.
Google and Advance Auto says that purolator doesn't fit my bike, the 900 custom.
Are those accurate?
 

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Google and Advance Auto says that purolator doesn't fit my bike, the 900 custom.
Are those accurate?
The websites claim they won't, they are aftermarket car filters. Best way to approach this is with those that use car tires on their bikes, (Dark Side)

I bolted on the PL14459 filter on a couple nights back. Snug fit but works. Very close to the regulator/rectifier mount on the frame, but it threaded right on without issue. I plan on adding a couple ounces more oil due to the slightly larger size overall than stock due to it's larger size.
 

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I cut open a Kawasaki OEM 16097-0008 oil filter and got different results. I didn't have any light pass through the bypass valve and couldn't see any indication where the bypass valve would not seal properly. Even if the bypass valve spring was defective and only applied half spring tension, no light can pass through it. However, I did have light pass through the filter element, but that is normal. I had to be very careful where I positioned the light because the bypass valve is small and getting the position wrong would point the light at the filter element where light can shine through. The body of the bypass valve fit snug against the filter element and appeared to be normal. There were no indications at all that the filter would not perform as it should.

I think you need more sample filters to properly evaluate a filter brand. I also think the filters should still be within their service life.

The Kawasaki OEM 16097-0008 oil filter I cut open is off a 2012 900 Classic LT. The bike has a little under 6000 miles. I don't know the service history of the motorcycle or how long the filter has been used. I just changed it out and replaced it with a FRAM PH6017A.
Yikes!!!! You went through and hacked up an OEM filter and examined it and then ended up using a Fram filter that many many many folks have hacked up and shown the results???? Wow.
 

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Google and Advance Auto says that purolator doesn't fit my bike, the 900 custom.
Are those accurate?
That's because these filters are only marketed for cars with no "official" cross-reference to motorcycles. However, spec data crosses this filter to other known filters, it has the bypass pressure range within Kaw specs, physically fits the thread spec & diameter and location requirements, and it just plain tastes better.
 
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