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Well I got in a little 'incident' today with a truck. Thankfully, nobody was hurt, very little damage. Pulled out into my lane headed my direction, made the turn very wide. I laid on the horn, he didn't see me or hear me he said (after the cops caught up with him that is, he left the scene.)

So I'm thinking Wolo BadBoy. Is there a better solution? I've been searching the forums and that seems to be it... gonna pull the trigger unless someone has a better solution. Next time this happens (though I pray it doesn't) I want him to have to change his pants.

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I had one of these on a old Mazda truck I had years ago and it performed well and loud. I still believe loud pipes safe lives!
 

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I had one of these on a old Mazda truck I had years ago and it performed well and loud. I still believe loud pipes safe lives!
Well with all due respect that wouldn't have helped much here. Next time your out in a cage sitting at a stop or something, notice how you don't hear those pipes AT ALL when they care coming toward you, not until they pass you. I don't know why that is, but without fail I watch these bikes come towards me, then don't hear them until they are past me. Then they are PLENTY loud, but you don't hear them beforehand. I've even experienced it with the window down and the radio off. That time you can faintly hear them... I don't know if it's the wind or the pipes heading away from you or what. But, I don't think pipes would have made much of a difference in this situation, certainly not as much as a loud, obnoxious, "What the heck is that" horn.
 

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From my experience I always see people looking over their left mirror because they hear me coming. Also on several trips my wife on her SUV with three children and radio at low to mid level and windows up could still hear me when from behined, on the side and of course when in front of her. Another example I always see kids waving hello, wifes looking over thier husbands and even at times intentionally scaring old folks when even before I can get next to them. But I do understand what you are saying as sometimes I too don't hear other riders thill they are pretty much passing me. A combination of both would probably yield better resutls as in some cases by the time you can hit the horn is too late. Of course, this was just good advise so if you take it or leave it you won't hurt my feeling. Safe riding.
 

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From my experience I always see people looking over their left mirror because they hear me coming. Also on several trips my wife on her SUV with three children and radio at low to mid level and windows up could still hear me when from behined, on the side and of course when in front of her. Another example I always see kids waving hello, wifes looking over thier husbands and even at times intentionally scaring old folks when even before I can get next to them. But I do understand what you are saying as sometimes I too don't hear other riders thill they are pretty much passing me. A combination of both would probably yield better resutls as in some cases by the time you can hit the horn is too late. Of course, this was just good advise so if you take it or leave it you won't hurt my feeling. Safe riding.
True enough. Certainly would REDUCE my "watch out idiot"-ability. But, I gotta be honest... I just can't stand them LOL. I do alot of touring with my bike, I pack on as many miles as I can. I cannot STAND getting behind or riding near a bike with loud pipes. It's a beautiful sound, but at one constant rev forever down the highway... I think if I had them on my bike the only way I'd ever get home is in a straight jacket. I mean I know alot of guys love 'em, but I'm just not one of those guys LOL. Plus, to be perfectly honest... There's a ton of stuff I want for the bike before I drop a few hundred for pipes :p

On the horn though... I've been reading up on the Stebel and Wolo Bad Boy. Gonna go with one of those two... It'll make my fiancée feel a little better too, knowing I've got a little more than that pathetic, "excuse me sir, but would you mind returning to your own lane?" horn.
 

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Getting noticed is what matters.

Three months after i bought by 09, Got it in Jan 09, the fifth car that tried to change lanes to where I was said the same thing " Sorry, I did not hear you" that was the day i ordered COBRA 2-1. Has not happened since. I commute to work through Dallas and outer cities.
Now cars move away from me and when behind they drop way back.
If Loud Pipes don't save lives they will sure save legs and trips to hospitals.

I have dual FIAMM Horns ( very loud for electric) but I have never seen a horn that will move a car that has just turned in front of you. If they don't know you are there to start with you are toast.

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I know your feeling on the pipes, on the highway that is all I hear. I have considered packing the baffles to make it quieter, but then I look around at the people in there Cages, Tex-ting and watching TV on there phones and just forget about it.
 

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In my MSF class, they stated there is zero scientific evidence that loud pipes save lives. I never personally hear them unless it's early in the morning and some dude/dudette feels it necessary to let the whole world know they are leaving or as they are passing me etc. That being said if you feel they do than that's what you should ride with because piece of mind means a lot out there. I've contemplated buying one of those fluorescent looking helmets and a new horn in hopes that those might help.
 

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Loud pipes, RV/BOAT Horns, and flashing strobe lights will NEVER "cure" idiotic distracted drivers of any kind of vehicle from bicycle to greyhound bus.....

All of them used together ALONG WITH TOTAL DEFENSIVE DRIVING AND SITUATIONAL AWARENESS are your only "shot" at safety.

Romans - be grateful that your first incident after riding for just a few months ONLY resulted some broken plastic/fiberglass.

Be safe out there!
 

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So I'm thinking Wolo BadBoy. Is there a better solution? I've been searching the forums and that seems to be it... gonna pull the trigger unless someone has a better solution. Next time this happens (though I pray it doesn't) I want him to have to change his pants.

-John[/QUOTE]

I installed the Stebel nautilus air horn yesterday . My god they are loud. I tried them in between two houses in my neighborhood. They made my grown son jump and he knew I was trying them out. We both did not know how loud 139DB's was. I got them in the chrome finish.

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Well with all due respect that wouldn't have helped much here. Next time your out in a cage sitting at a stop or something, notice how you don't hear those pipes AT ALL when they care coming toward you, not until they pass you. I don't know why that is, but without fail I watch these bikes come towards me, then don't hear them until they are past me. Then they are PLENTY loud, but you don't hear them beforehand. I've even experienced it with the window down and the radio off. That time you can faintly hear them... I don't know if it's the wind or the pipes heading away from you or what. But, I don't think pipes would have made much of a difference in this situation, certainly not as much as a loud, obnoxious, "What the heck is that" horn.


I agree

My opinion, is that loud pipes just piss me and other people off because some riders use them for that purpose just to piss everyone off, if riders want to save lives "learn to ride defensive" that will save your life, but alot of riders are too proud to admit it, I refer to those rider as "the look good when I ride" :)

just my opinion no hurt egos intended
 

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I installed the Stebel nautilus air horn yesterday . My god they are loud. I tried them in between two houses in my neighborhood. They made my grown son jump and he knew I was trying them out. We both did not know how loud 139DB's was. I got them in the chrome finish.
As others have pointed out, you're never going to cure stupid with loud pipes, flashing lights, or high-DB horns. That said, I, too, went the route of the Stebel Nautilus as a solution to the not-loud-enough horn, and couldn't be more pleased with the results: http://www.vulcanforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=183411&postcount=52. I can now literally see the inattentive drivers jump when they get a blast of the Nautilus (not to mention the unsuspecting pedestrians ;)), which I hope at least temporarily snaps them out of stupid.
 

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as long as police and the courts buy the " i didnt see or hear him" excuse people will keep using it as an excuse for not even looking....
 

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As others have pointed out, you're never going to cure stupid with loud pipes, flashing lights, or high-DB horns. That said, I, too, went the route of the Stebel Nautilus as a solution to the not-loud-enough horn, and couldn't be more pleased with the results: http://www.vulcanforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=183411&postcount=52. I can now literally see the inattentive drivers jump when they get a blast of the Nautilus (not to mention the unsuspecting pedestrians ;)), which I hope at least temporarily snaps them out of stupid.
No snapping out of stupid, inattentive maybe, but both are just as bad.
I haven't used the horn in anger yet but when I do I would like them to have a wet seat. We all know that the best way to avoid a conflict is to stay out of them in the first place. Easier said than done.

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Rivco Air Horns. 128db.

Smedlin, I'm in the process of installing those very same horns on an '08 900 Custom. I know they are 2 different bikes, but I was wondering a couple things:

1) Where did you mount your relay?
2) After you cut the wires from the stock horn, did you splice the supplied wires onto the old or did you replace all of the horn wires (up to the switch)? I wasn't sure if it was necessary to go back and replace all the wiring.

Thanks.
 

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In my MSF class, they stated there is zero scientific evidence that loud pipes save lives. I never personally hear them unless it's early in the morning and some dude/dudette feels it necessary to let the whole world know they are leaving or as they are passing me etc. That being said if you feel they do than that's what you should ride with because piece of mind means a lot out there. I've contemplated buying one of those fluorescent looking helmets and a new horn in hopes that those might help.
Our MSF course here in Houston said the same thing.
We were told that if you want to get loud pipes then get them, but don't think they will do you any good.

Also agree on my experience in cars. You just don't hear them.

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as long as police and the courts buy the " i didnt see or hear him" excuse people will keep using it as an excuse for not even looking....
I've never heard of anyone getting out of trouble by saying this.

I don't think loud pipes save lives, as they're mostly heard by people you're moving away from. If you want loud pipes, get 'em, but understand that some people are annoyed by them, and no one (OK, maybe 10 year old boys) thinks they make you cool.

The best defensive equipment you have is between your ears.
 
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