I'll start out by saying that in no way am i hd bashing. hd's are beautiul bikes. its the riders that crack me up. so i pull up to a hd at a light on my way home. it looked like a late 90's or early 2000 street glide or something like that. so we both say hi to eachother and i follow it with a "nice bike." However his bike looked a little beat up.the main reason why i threw it out there was because i wanted to see what his response would be. My 12' vn900 classic se looked a hell of a lot nicer than his did as i take really good care of my bike. he then took the next few moments looking my bike over. he had to be starring for at least 30-40sec. he said nothing. just looked straight and rode off when the light turned green. it made me laugh, not even a "yours too." Now, i dont need him to tell me i have a nice ride because i know i do. its just funny that some, not all, hd guys have the mindset if its not a hd then it aint sh*t. this hasnt been my expirence with all hd guys just about half of them. its ok though, to each their own. anyone have similar expirences?