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I went for my first long ride since getting the bike...bout 90 miles one way then stayed a few days and rode back...here are the things I discovered

1. Stock seat sucks balls! I could not find a comfortable position at 6'3

2. Its crazy windy at 80mph even with my bullet fairing

3. My feet needed to stretch out a lot more

4. My hands got sore from the stock grips and I wished I had cruise control

I'm planning on getting the forward controls from the member here who makes the custom 4" but I need to improve these other areas bad!


I need two up seat suggestions with no driver back rest but sissybar for wife...it doesnt need to be a lazy boy boy but its gotta be better than stock!

I need grip suggestions....cruise control?

Too be perfectly honest it was a terrible ride and I just wanted it to end...I like the around town but man after bout 30 min I was ready for it to be over...anyone else had similar stock option comfort issues or am I just a diva?

Tyanks fkr the help
 

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Maybe a little diva, just kidding. The seat is o sore spot for most with stock seat. Mustang wide tour seats are very popular options to the stock seat. Cobra, I believe makes a quality sissy bar for most bikes, in different hieghts and styles, others do aswell including Kawasaki. Kuryaki makes a wide variety of grips. If you dont have one, I suggest a highway "crashbar", also know as engine guard. Baron makes a good one for your bike I believe. Some come with foot rest built in, others you can add pegs to for that extra stretchout room.


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My wife is sitting on the couch, rolling laughing. 90 miles? We do that before breakfast on a typical Saturday ride. Her first long ride on her VN 900 Classic LT was appx 800 miles, one way, and she did it with a totally stock bike.
 

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90 miles. Oh my.

I had a 900 and it certainly was not a long distance tourer - for me. However, I frequently did 100-300 mile rides on it. That said, there are a few things to consider:

New seat. My backside isn't as sensitive as some on here but I found the stock seat to just plain suck. I had a gel seat pad that I put on top and it helped. Since I only kept the bike 2 years I am glad I didn't go with an aftermarket seat. Mustang or Corbin or Russell.

Cruise Control. Good luck on that. You can try a throttle lock style but I found the cramp buster to be of great help for me. It was enough that I could release the tension on grip. That was worth 9.95 at cycle gear.

Without lowers crazy windy is the way it is. You are getting buffeting up the tank. Lowers are your only real choice for the 900 and there are home made and after market options. My Nomad has lowers and it really makes a difference.

Another obvious thing. You are 6-3. Comfort on the 900 is going to be a bit difficult anyway. It is a middleweight cruiser that realistically is designed for the 5-7 to 5-11 crowd. Just based on where stuff is placed on the bike. I am at the other end of the spectrum and found the 900 to be perfectly sized. My Nomad is a great ride but it is a stretch on the legs when moving the bike around.

Last. 80 mph is pretty darn fast on a 900. You are about topped out. When I had mine I generally avoided freeways for backroads, except for my commute. The 900 just isn't a high speed bike - my opinion.

Good luck and enjoy it.
 

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You don't specify what bike you have in your post, but assuming, from reading other replies, that you have a 900, I don't think you have enough "bike" for your size. If you intend on much open road riding, you should probably consider something with a larger frame, and larger eigine.. Something deliberately designed for that typeof riding. You would be much happier all around. The 900 is great for general purpose rides and short jaunts. Not so great for larger folks or long rides. Been there. That's why I upgraded to the Nomad model. Same reasons as yours. It all depends on your riding styles, which only you can determine. Take care.
 

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I'm with ya man. Don't listen to these folks. 90 miles is a chore on that bike stock. But pretty soon, you'll understand why they are laughing!

1) Believe it or not, over time, you'll be more comfortable on your bike anyway, you'll build up new muscles (it's true!)

2) Get a new seat. Don't waste your time or your money on seat covers. They improve, but not enough. Mustang Wide Touring is fantastic. I went from sore after 40 miles to being able to ride tank-to-tank effortlessly.

3) Highway pegs are a must. Moving your legs around is a necessity. Also, keeping your legs stretched out will help your hind end feel better!

4) Get off the dang interstate! It's boring as all get out, LOL.

5) Don't use the term 'cruise control'. It's a throttle lock and it's a pet peeve of mine when people call throttle locks cruise control. Cruise control maintains speed, not throttle :p You can go the throttle lock route, but I have had tremendous success (Just got done with a 600 mile trip on my 900, 2500 mile trip last year) with a 'cramp buster'. It's this little plastic thing that wraps around your throttle and allows you to change hand positions.

http://www.crampbuster.com/

Get the 'CB2', the wide one. It's wonderful!

Have fun! The 900 is a great touring machine once you get it configured right!

You don't specify what bike you have in your post, but assuming, from reading other replies, that you have a 900, I don't think you have enough "bike" for your size. If you intend on much open road riding, you should probably consider something with a larger frame, and larger eigine.. Something deliberately designed for that typeof riding. You would be much happier all around. The 900 is great for general purpose rides and short jaunts. Not so great for larger folks or long rides. Been there. That's why I upgraded to the Nomad model. Same reasons as yours. It all depends on your riding styles, which only you can determine. Take care.


The frame on the 900 is nearly the size of the 1700 models, it's just not as heavy! I'm a big guy, and I ride it two up long distances loaded down with luggage!

That was one of the best things Kawasaki did with the 900; they took a mid-sized bike that's cheap and cheap on insurance, and put it into a big frame capable of doing a lot more!

Not saying there aren't trade-offs. Or that the 900 is the best bike ever. BUT; I and others have no problems with lots of long distance riding on our 9's! I've ridden a 1700 Voyager. Suspension was better, it was smoother, better wind protection, lower RPM's; but it really didn't feel any 'bigger' (other than being heavier). My feet felt like they were in the same spot as before, as were my hands!

So, no doubt a Nomad is a better touring machine; but I wouldn't tell OP to just give up and jump ship just yet. With a few tweaks the 900 is very capable.
 

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I went for my first long ride since getting the bike...bout 90 miles one way then stayed a few days and rode back...here are the things I discovered

1. Stock seat sucks balls! I could not find a comfortable position at 6'3

2. Its crazy windy at 80mph even with my bullet fairing

3. My feet needed to stretch out a lot more

4. My hands got sore from the stock grips and I wished I had cruise control

I'm planning on getting the forward controls from the member here who makes the custom 4" but I need to improve these other areas bad!


I need two up seat suggestions with no driver back rest but sissybar for wife...it doesnt need to be a lazy boy boy but its gotta be better than stock!

I need grip suggestions....cruise control?

Too be perfectly honest it was a terrible ride and I just wanted it to end...I like the around town but man after bout 30 min I was ready for it to be over...anyone else had similar stock option comfort issues or am I just a diva?

Tyanks fkr the help

1. Stock seat sucks balls! I could not find a comfortable position at 6'3

Yes most think the stock seat sucks, I have a stock seat, my weight is only 175, I find I need to be riding more then 5 hrs before butt soar. Some of the riders I have meet like the Airhawk seat pad, they don't want to fork out the money for a new 3rd party seat

2. Its crazy windy at 80mph even with my bullet fairing

Bullet fairing works great for a sports bike, on a crusier you sit up right so you get blasted by the wind, on a sports bike you are lean over into the fairing and also you have all the lower fairing to help get air around you.

Might try a different shield

3. My feet needed to stretch out a lot more

Crash bars with highway pegs, lol I can't have highway pegs on my crash bars, I can't reach them :)

4. My hands got sore from the stock grips and I wished I had cruise control

You say hands, so I am asuming you mean both, well ligthen up on the grip, your left hand can just rest when riding the slab, for the right hand get a cramp buster, Easy to use and you just need one finger to move the throttle, also Cheap money. Most cruise control for the 900 is just locking the throttle, no real control, just set the speed then lock it. My self I find that dangerous , if that lock don't unlock your [email protected]&%. :eek:

You could buy a different bike ,
 

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I feel ya!

I got a seat pad online for 50 bucks. I also purchased 2 cramp busters for each grip and this helps a bunch.

I found a used Memphis fats break-away shield on Craigslist which keeps wind/bugs off chest.

I just don't have a lot of $$ to spend but these things made a big difference.
 

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Long rides and seats

I have a spinal cond. that makes most seats uncomfortable to me, but I do manage a couple of long rides a yr. usually about 1500 to 2,000 mi each. I have a mustang seat now but it was broken in by a previous rider, doesn't fit me exactly. I had a nice Corbin seat on a bike I traded that was very comfortable. I saw on the forum that someone was using padded bicycle shorts under their pants. Has anyone tried this.??
 

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Ok ok ok so maybe i should have clarified a few things first....this is my first motorcycle and this was the longest ride i had done on it since i purchased it back in March...i usually just cruise around town and i really like the bike for that purpose however i had to ride to the in-laws place that is 40 miles freeway at 75 mph and then 58 miles at 65 mph on a twisty mountain road...i also was wearing my helmet for the first time, since i knew it was going to be windy, and it was giving me a HUGE headache cause its not broken in yet...so perhaps i am a diva and a pansy but like i said this was the longest trip i had taken so far and i discovered a few things and was under the impression with a few minor ergonomic changes the bike would be more suiting for my 6'3 at 175 lbs frame...
 

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Ok ok ok so maybe i should have clarified a few things first....this is my first motorcycle and this was the longest ride i had done on it since i purchased it back in March...i usually just cruise around town and i really like the bike for that purpose however i had to ride to the in-laws place that is 40 miles freeway at 75 mph and then 58 miles at 65 mph on a twisty mountain road...i also was wearing my helmet for the first time, since i knew it was going to be windy, and it was giving me a HUGE headache cause its not broken in yet...so perhaps i am a diva and a pansy but like i said this was the longest trip i had taken so far and i discovered a few things and was under the impression with a few minor ergonomic changes the bike would be more suiting for my 6'3 at 175 lbs frame...
All easy stuff for you to do on your own, the bike will be fine for your size with the right tweaks.
 

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I rode my stock '09 Custom 80 miles yesterday and didn't stop to get off in the hour and a half that it took. Personally, I don't mind the stock seat. It's not got a lot of padding, but I can move around and change positions, which helps. Next time you're on a long ride try stretching your legs out and laying the back of your leg on the footpegs. I'm 6' 1" and I do that from time to time on the highway. And get one of these: http://www.crampbuster.com/.
I got one for my Concours 14 and it's great on longer rides.
 

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And don't take the smart comments seriously.

It's important to be comfortable on your bike. There are some good ideas for you here and especially as a new rider there is a lot of help on this forum.

Just note, the helmet will not break in, your head will get used to it. Helmets should fit snug but not tight as they don't stretch over time.
 

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Thanks for the comments guys...its not that i hate the bike or anything it was just a rough ride for 90 miles with out really stopping...hopefully with a few changes it will smooth out the ride...most of my riding is around town anyway but who wouldnt wanna go for a longer ride every once and a while?
 

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I went for my first long ride since getting the bike...bout 90 miles one way then stayed a few days and rode back...here are the things I discovered

1. Stock seat sucks balls! I could not find a comfortable position at 6'3

2. Its crazy windy at 80mph even with my bullet fairing

3. My feet needed to stretch out a lot more

4. My hands got sore from the stock grips and I wished I had cruise control

I'm planning on getting the forward controls from the member here who makes the custom 4" but I need to improve these other areas bad!


I need two up seat suggestions with no driver back rest but sissybar for wife...it doesnt need to be a lazy boy boy but its gotta be better than stock!

I need grip suggestions....cruise control?

Too be perfectly honest it was a terrible ride and I just wanted it to end...I like the around town but man after bout 30 min I was ready for it to be over...anyone else had similar stock option comfort issues or am I just a diva?

Tyanks fkr the help
Don't let these guys flame you, man. When you're on your first bike, 90 miles seems like a hell of a long ride, when all you've done up to that point is putt around town. The best way to learn to deal with the discomforts of inexperience is to gain experience. Put miles on that clock, brother.

1) Yes, the stock seat does kinda suck. I didn't mind it too much, but I won't pretend it was anything better than mediocre on its best day. But more/longer rides conditions the ol' ass to handle sitting on a seat too, so don't be shy. Get on that bike and ride.

2) Bullet fairings on cruisers seem to mostly be for decoration. I can't imagine they even do a decent job of keeping bugs outta your face. Wind management is always an uphill battle because no two riders are exactly alike as far as height and riding position. There are pointers for starting out like measuring for windshield height, but then maybe you'll need lowers, crash bar closeouts, etc. Start with a shield if you don't like getting beat up by the wind. the Memphis Shades website offers good advice for choosing the right one.

3) There aren't a lot of bikes with a longer frame than a 900. Yamaha, Victory...a Valkyrie, maybe. Forward controls are a good start, and so is a crash bar with highway pegs. I'd do both. Take note that most touring seats move you forward a little bit, so it might wash in combination with the forward controls.

4) I -hear- Iso-Grips are very comfortable, but Kuryakyn is very proud of all their merch. I only own one Kury accessory, the highway pegs with the Longhorn offsets on my Vic, and I got 'em for the low-low price of FREE. Also a throttle lock or throttle boss may help. But I offer this advice: be mindful of how tightly you're squeezing the grips. In face, be mindful of how tense and tight you are in general. As a new rider, I would come back from short rides (lol in the 90 mile range) fully exhausted. Soon I realized that I was trying to wring the life from my grips, and my thighs, butt, and back were tensed...early on it can be a little nerve-wracking, and there's no shame in that. No shame in creeping through your first set of twisties learning how the bike feels and learning how you feel riding it.

Maybe that's not part of your problem; I've never ridden with you so I can't say for sure. I'm just offering this advice based on what I learned and felt as a new rider. I just hope it helps you.

Now, I have a question for YOU, sir...if you rode 40 miles of I-84 before 50 miles of mountains, I'm assuming you popped off the slab in Mountain Home and took highway 20 toward Fairfield. Maybe to Pine or Featherville? :D

That's some good road until you get east of the Pine-Featherville Highway. Then it's just Camas Prairie, which is greener than north Lincoln County, but otherwise about as interesting. lol
 

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I agree with you on the stock seat. My back-side would go numb after 50 miles. For the 900 there are lots of options to change the comfort and riding position. Here is what I changed...

Seat - Corbin Dual Tour. It changed my riding position (I am 6 ft) 1" lower and approx. 1.5" back allowing we to stretch out my legs (and knees). Can ride all day with no numbness.

Highway pegs - Kuryakyn (attached to the floor boards), or they can be attached to a highway bar. Allows me to stretch out even more.

Grips - Kuryakyn ISO grips with a throttle boss. Definitely helps with my hands (but I have issues with carpel tunnel).

Throttle lock - Break-away. Great option for long stretches of highway.
 

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As a new rider, I would come back from short rides (lol in the 90 mile range) fully exhausted. Soon I realized that I was trying to wring the life from my grips, and my thighs, butt, and back were tensed...early on it can be a little nerve-wracking, and there's no shame in that. No shame in creeping through your first set of twisties learning how the bike feels and learning how you feel riding it.

Now, I have a question for YOU, sir...if you rode 40 miles of I-84 before 50 miles of mountains, I'm assuming you popped off the slab in Mountain Home and took highway 20 toward Fairfield. Maybe to Pine or Featherville? :D

That's some good road until you get east of the Pine-Featherville Highway. Then it's just Camas Prairie, which is greener than north Lincoln County, but otherwise about as interesting. lol

Yah i think the main reason i was probably gripped up so tight was because it was crazy windy both to and from my location...i didnt want to get the wobbles...i frequently tell myself to relax my grip so i'm not white knuckled the entire time

Haha that's funny that you know exactly where i went...my wife is from Fairfield and i went to go help my Father In Law with his construction business for a week...from Meridian to Mt. Home was the stupidest ride i've done yet...Mt. Home to Fairfield was better but i was so tired and beat up from the previous 40 miles i had a hard time enjoying it...maybe we meet up and ride sometime??? I'm sure you know a road or two round So Idaho
 

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Yah i think the main reason i was probably gripped up so tight was because it was crazy windy both to and from my location...i didnt want to get the wobbles...i frequently tell myself to relax my grip so i'm not white knuckled the entire time

Haha that's funny that you know exactly where i went...my wife is from Fairfield and i went to go help my Father In Law with his construction business for a week...from Meridian to Mt. Home was the stupidest ride i've done yet...Mt. Home to Fairfield was better but i was so tired and beat up from the previous 40 miles i had a hard time enjoying it...maybe we meet up and ride sometime??? I'm sure you know a road or two round So Idaho
You really don't have a lot of choice for getting east of Boise, unless you've got a lot of time on your hands. You can either head south through Murphy and Bruneau (haven't been that way...YET), or north through Idaho City to Stanley (which would be worth every second of the extra 5 hours it'd take you to get to Fairfield). Same thing in eastern ID. You either take I-86, or you take 93 to Arco then ID20 to IF...and you take all day.

I find myself up Boise way pretty often. My wife and I like to go up to McCall on overnights a couple times a year. We could certainly meet up sometime on our way through! There's so much good road in central ID you could take days just riding around up there.
 

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like all the others stated don't let the flaming get to you :).

My first long ride after 25 years of not riding was a bitch!! my ass was so soar I limped when the day was done, it was 120 miles one way with 12 other people , 28 Degrees out also. we went on a Pie run. We do it each month to a different place 12 months of the year too some place that servers pie :p, here is a picture all dressed for the weather :D that was a cold morning running 50 mph to 70 mph at 28 degrees out, the wind chill was awful!. there was over 100 of us at the final stop for pie
 

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