Cobra FI2000R vs FI2000 Powerpro

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Propduster

Discussion Starter · Feb 12, 2015

Planning the next upgrades while I sit here in three feet of snow (and lots more coming).

Just wondering whether anyone had experience with either or both of theses gizmos. Specifically, is the 80 adjustment per second, fully automatic nature of the Powerpro worth a $400 plus price premium over the FI2000R?

Rick

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darkarcher

· #2 · Feb 12, 2015

I just got a steal on a FI2000r. Although I would have liked to get the pro, I am not sure this bike needs it. All you need to do is call cobra if your at all confused to get a good understanding of how to tune it. I did not do that, but I am not confused. If your not a person that can "feel" the bike, then maybe its not for you. I cant really comment as I just got it and its not installed yet but I will report back asap. Which may be a while given the current 10 day forecast.

One tip I can give you is that the 2nd and third knobs are dependent on your setting of the first green knob being semi correct. That being said a really good way to get that green knob almost perfect right from the start is with a tachometer which our bikes do not have. So I am suggesting you buy a tach if you don't already have one and plan on getting the FI2000r. Otherwise just get the more expensive one. I will also add that my dad put the Pro on his M109r and it didn't run that good (low RPM surging). Come to find out it also has an adjustment lever and after some tweaking it now runs great. So do you want a $200 pig with 3 levers or a $400 pig with 1 lever .........

My first bike was a ninja 650. I put a power commander 5 on it and took the best fuel map that was circulating around the 650 forum and added it. After riding it a while, installing an 02 bung, autotune, and custom modding the air box, I was not completely satisfied. So, I started editing the entire map by feel. After a couple months I posted my results and mods to share and many folks with same mods claimed my map was now the "best" they had used. So in short three little knobs to twist on seems like a piece of cake to me.

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Propduster

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 13, 2015

Thanks for the run down! I can probably twist a lot of knobs and flip a pile of levers for $400!

Rick

DeputyLoud

· #4 · Feb 13, 2015

You won't be disappointed with a Power Pro. The auto tune takes all the guess work out of mapping. It will handle any and all performance mods you may do in the future without a 2nd thought. Plug and Play, literally!

Worth the $400 in my opinion. I did mine at the same time I put on the Power Flo intake, and exhaust pipes. All cobra, mine runs great!

Inkydoggy

· #5 · Feb 13, 2015 (Edited)

New Control System For Fuel Injection!

Propduster said:
I can probably twist a lot of knobs and flip a pile of levers for $400!

Rick

Here is your new FI Control Panel!

darkarcher

· #6 · Feb 13, 2015

Inkydoggy said:
Here is your new FI Control Panel!

Still not as bad as Power Commander V individual fuel cells!

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Propduster

Discussion Starter · #7 · Feb 15, 2015

Cripes, you guys are starting to scare me!

Appreciate all the info...I only got the bike about two weeks before I had to store it for the winter so will probably wait for a bit before I go nuts on upgrades, but good to have the info in my back pocket for when the time comes.

I did notice that I found the pipes a little quiet and the throttle response a bit inconsistent so figure a performance module and new pipes will both be on the short list of methods to make the bank account suffer weight loss!

Rick

darkarcher

· #8 · Feb 15, 2015

Propduster said:
Cripes, you guys are starting to scare me!

Appreciate all the info...I only got the bike about two weeks before I had to store it for the winter so will probably wait for a bit before I go nuts on upgrades, but good to have the info in my back pocket for when the time comes.

I did notice that I found the pipes a little quiet and the throttle response a bit inconsistent so figure a performance module and new pipes will both be on the short list of methods to make the bank account suffer weight loss!

Rick

Don't be worried, so far this is one of the easiest bikes to work on I have seen. Today I took the stock air box off and installed a Cobra CAI. Highly recommend that from a looks perspective. Too cold out to fire it up and go for a ride just yet. Probably going to go ahead and Yank the tank and put my FI200r on later this week so I will let you know how it goes.

Foxman276

· #9 · Feb 15, 2015

Propduster said:
Planning the next upgrades while I sit here in three feet of snow (and lots more coming).

Just wondering whether anyone had experience with either or both of theses gizmos. Specifically, is the 80 adjustment per second, fully automatic nature of the Powerpro worth a $400 plus price premium over the FI2000R?

Rick

Hey Propduster, I'm also in Nova Scotia under the same mounds of snow. I just bought a 2000r used from a member here (thanks Caper!) after debating the same question. I couldn't justify the cost of the Pro. This bike isn't that sophisticated in my opinion.

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Propduster

Discussion Starter · #10 · Feb 15, 2015

Foxman276 said:
Hey Propduster, I'm also in Nova Scotia under the same mounds of snow. I just bought a 2000r used from a member here (thanks Caper!) after debating the same question. I couldn't justify the cost of the Pro. This bike isn't that sophisticated in my opinion.

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Hey, Foxman! This is a real nasty one...almost White Juan-like sitting here in the Valley. (For the non-Nova Scotians, Hurricane Juan hit us in September 2003 with damage that left some without power for nearly three weeks...then an epic snowstorm dubbed White Juan hit the Halifax area in February 2004, paralysing the place for several days with close to 100 cm or 3 feet of snow.)

That's kind of what I'm tending towards...although plug and play is tempting, I'll see how the spirit moves me and my bank account when the time comes...probably around Augyst at this rate!

Propduster

Discussion Starter · #11 · Feb 15, 2015

darkarcher said:
Don't be worried, so far this is one of the easiest bikes to work on I have seen. Today I took the stock air box off and installed a Cobra CAI. Highly recommend that from a looks perspective. Too cold out to fire it up and go for a ride just yet. Probably going to go ahead and Yank the tank and put my FI200r on later this week so I will let you know how it goes.

Thanks! I'll look forward to hearing how it turns out!

nofam

· #12 · Feb 17, 2015

I've got the FI2000 on my 09 Custom (along with a BAK and V&H pipes) and it's great - excellent throttle response, and only the slightest popping of you don't back the throttle off completely when heading down a long hill.

darkarcher

· #13 · Feb 17, 2015

nofam said:
I've got the FI2000 on my 09 Custom (along with a BAK and V&H pipes) and it's great - excellent throttle response, and only the slightest popping of you don't back the throttle off completely when heading down a long hill.

marble mod? what are your settings?

nofam

· #14 · Feb 17, 2015

darkarcher said:
marble mod? what are your settings?

Sorry, I meant the PowrPro - no adjustment needed. Haven't bothered with the marble mod, as the popping isn't an issue for me.

whiting57

· #15 · Feb 17, 2015

read this thread and then decide ...

http://www.vulcanforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138074

setting "opinions" are like rear ends .... everybody's got one.

I run a power pro auto tune ... spend the extra dough, forget the headaches, ride it any place, in any elevation, in any temperature, adding what ever goodies you may want at a later date, with out the setting hassles or dyno tuning etc.
A straight processor plus dyno tuning equals an auto pro processor for the most part ... and then its only good in your area ...

Propduster

Discussion Starter · #16 · Feb 17, 2015

whiting57 said:
read this thread and then decide ...

http://www.vulcanforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138074

setting "opinions" are like rear ends .... everybody's got one.

I run a power pro auto tune ... spend the extra dough, forget the headaches, ride it any place, in any elevation, in any temperature, adding what ever goodies you may want at a later date, with out the setting hassles or dyno tuning etc.
A straight processor plus dyno tuning equals an auto pro processor for the most part ... and then its only good in your area ...

Yeah, see what you mean. I'm looking at this as a simple fix, not an ongoing "dialling for dollars" tweak. Good info - thanks!

Propduster

Discussion Starter · #17 · Feb 17, 2015

nofam said:
Sorry, I meant the PowrPro - no adjustment needed. Haven't bothered with the marble mod, as the popping isn't an issue for me.

OK, I'll bite...what the heck is the "marble mod"?

darkarcher

· #18 · Feb 17, 2015

Propduster said:
OK, I'll bite...what the heck is the "marble mod"?

Basically you block off the hose in the top right corner of the stock air box. It keeps excess air from flowing back into the exhaust gasses and causing backfire. This is something that is useful when you have a cat, but can only cause issues when your running straight pipes. Search Vulcan 900 marble mod and you will find plenty of reading. I shoved a red wire nut in there and zip tied either side to make sure it didn't move for piece of mind.

Cruizin

· #19 · Feb 18, 2015

nofam said:
Sorry, I meant the PowrPro - no adjustment needed. Haven't bothered with the marble mod, as the popping isn't an issue for me.

That's pretty interesting. My popping was totally eliminated once I installed the PowrPro.

whiting57

· #20 · Feb 19, 2015

Propduster said:
Yeah, see what you mean. I'm looking at this as a simple fix, not an ongoing "dialling for dollars" tweak. Good info - thanks!

I'm a mechanical Nudnik when it comes to repairs ... but I can bolt most things onto my bike ... I did my hypercharger myself with the help a step by step "pictography" that I copied and posted on the forum.
It took me about 1 1/2hrs to install the processor, mostly because I don't have a great tool selection. Anybody with some sort of mechanical aptitude could do it much quicker.

I installed my pipes at a later date.

I do get why some enjoy the challenge of pissing around with programs and settings .... I do not have the knowledge to do it, nor do I have the time. Its what ever floats your boat.

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