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In another thread, the subject of balancing beads was brought up again so i thought i'd put in my 2 cents.

A popular and familiar first choice among folks using balancing beads is with a product called "Dyna Beads". I don't want to knock down their product, it's proven effective and a great alternative to lead weights.

I would like to offer up an alternative that i've found, however, and am currently using in my bike. "Counteract Balancing Beads".

I wouldn't presume to make a suggestion as to where you should get it, but i do think you should research what's out there and make a decision on your own as to which product you want and where to get it.

My point to this is that i found the Counteract product to be MUCH more cost effective than the Innovative Balancing product. I bought a 1-pound bag for about the cost of a 5-ounce Dyna Beads kit. I now have enough beads left over for a number of tire changes.

I'll step down off the soapbox now... thanks.
 

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Hummm I went to the counteract site and looked for motorcycle application they had a link posted to go to the dyna balls site. What's up??????

Just wondering
 

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Don't know for sure. My guess is that they're able to market smaller quantities for a higher price that way. Same product, different packaging.

My suggestion holds... buy a 1lb bag and put in the suggested quanty of beads for your tire. You'll have plenty left over for other tires.
 

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The beads provide dynamic balancing that can change as the tire wears. Really gives you a silky smooth ride (minus the bumps in the road of course). Plus the added benefit of nothing hanging onto or off of your wheel.
 

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I can't fathom a tire going out of balance as it wears, short of locking it in a long slide. If the cosmetics bother you, I can see the purpose there. For what it's worth, I don't have any problem with them. Just never understood what the appeal was. Thanks for clarifying that.
 

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I can't fathom a tire going out of balance as it wears, short of locking it in a long slide. If the cosmetics bother you, I can see the purpose there. For what it's worth, I don't have any problem with them. Just never understood what the appeal was. Thanks for clarifying that.
It's the same concept as they point out on cars with their "lifetime balaning" guarantees. Sometimes, albeit rare, a tire can wear unevenly (especially if you don't pay careful attention to air pressure, which is a MUST when using only two wheels). Also, bumps and/or vibration, or constant centrifugal force can sometimes cause you to send a balancing weight flying (happened to me just this weekend).

Although all of these issues aren't the norm, they become more important when you rely on two tires instead of four. I never even considered balancing beads until this weekend, when I rode a couple miles home with a thrown weight in hand and a slight wobble to the bike. :p

I consider myself lucky that I saw the weight fly off around the corner, and even luckier when I was able to find it! Even LUCKIER that I was within 2 miles from home after a long trek through the lovely countryside of Oklahoma!

Ok, ok... after all that long story, I too can see the value of balancing beads now, and will be switching to them, as opposed to the traditional weights, soon!
 

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Not to mention the fact that it makes self install/balance easier, I'm sure. ;)
 

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Improper air pressure can cause the tire to wear more in the center or outer part of the tread but there's no reasonable way for it to cause a change in balance. The physics are entirely wrong for that to happen. Other than losing a balance weight entirely it simply will not change over the life of the tire.
As to making it easier to balance at home, all it takes is a place to prop the axle so you can spin the wheel. Seems like a solution looking got a problem to solve.
 

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I guess that's a case in point, fastpakr. If you're going to change a tire and balance at home, which is easier? Propping up an axle, spinning the tire to find the heavy location and then getting the correct weight in the right spot, or just pouring in a couple three ounces of beads and inflating the tire?

I opted for the beads.. i'm basically pretty lazy. I'll go for the best job at the least amount of work any time.
 

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Totally agreed on taking the easiest route if the results are equal. Just not convinced that this is a better one yet. A friend of mine asked for help a couple of months ago because he was getting a lot of vibration. Turned out he had used beads and was still getting a significant shake at speed. No complaints since we used weights to spin balance it. To be fair, I have no way of knowing if the proper amount had been used. Just that he came in with a bead related complaint and walked away happy after switching over.
 

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I was ready to buy the beads but Motorcycle Consumer News, May edition?, did a test and weren't impressed. The CEO of Dyna Beads blasted the bike rag for reporting their report on the findings. Since MCN is subscriber supported (no ads or promo stuff) they didn't care what the CEO thought and blasted back. I'm going to stick with what I know works.
 

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In another thread, the subject of balancing beads was brought up again so i thought i'd put in my 2 cents.

A popular and familiar first choice among folks using balancing beads is with a product called "Dyna Beads". I don't want to knock down their product, it's proven effective and a great alternative to lead weights.

I would like to offer up an alternative that i've found, however, and am currently using in my bike. "Counteract Balancing Beads".

I wouldn't presume to make a suggestion as to where you should get it, but i do think you should research what's out there and make a decision on your own as to which product you want and where to get it.

My point to this is that i found the Counteract product to be MUCH more cost effective than the Innovative Balancing product. I bought a 1-pound bag for about the cost of a 5-ounce Dyna Beads kit. I now have enough beads left over for a number of tire changes.

I'll step down off the soapbox now... thanks.
That is awesome. I have read much on the subject because of your post and I now want to try the balancing beads. More importantly, since I have a few toys, I want the pound for the price of a 5 ounce supply. Where do you buy them?

One thing I didn't see in the discussion, is ATV application. There is no point using conventional weights on a ATV. First of all they will be thrown off and secondly the mud on the tires will cause them to be off balance anyway.

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You can either go to the Counteract Balancing website and find a local distributor in your state by looking into their "Dealers" area, or just buy a bag off the internet.
 

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We were using the dyna beads in our jeeps but were not impressed with the price. They are about as reusable as a kleenex. Right now we have one Jeep with bbs, one with rv antifreeze (the tires don't last long enough for damage), and one with the beads. The antifreeze seem to be working out the best. The dyna beads and bbs don't disperse as well. Our tires do go out of balance with wear. Driving on gravel roads will bruise your tire and cause deformities. My bike has to see the same 6 miles of gravel on the way out so I am going to try the counterbalance beads on my next change.
 

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If the Dyna Beads didn't work out for you, neither will the Counterbalance beads, they're virtually the same product.
 

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Putting new rims and tires on my wifes Jeep this week. This time we are going to try the airsoft bbs. If they work out, I am going to try them on my bike. I'll post back if I like em or not. Dyna beads worked ok unless you have a plug, patch, or want to reuse em. They are too fine (almost dust) and too hard to collect and reuse without getting all over the tire bead.
 

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I wish someone could explain the physics of this. I keep thinking that an out of balance tire would run in an eccentric, with the heavy side describing a larger circle than the light side, and that beads would go to the heavy side, which would be at a larger radius from the center of rotation.

Did that sound confusing to you, too?
 

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1 Lb Balancing Beads Where to buy

Helek 52,
Where do you buy the one pound of balance beads and what are they called? How much did they cost?
 
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