A mention on the laws too, I believe all 50 states require children to wear helmets. Now, if you don't wanna wear one you'll get no flack from me; but if folks think their kids don't need to wear them that's a little different in my humble opinion; but regardless, I BELIEVE all states require it.Check your state laws to start with. Each one is written differently. Personally I feel when they are responsible enough and strong enough to hang on and keep feet on pegs. I feel it is a parental decision about your kids and how well they fit on your bike. When I had my 1100 v-star my (at the time 3 yo) daughter could almost touch the passenger pegs. I took her up the road and back on a private street and she loves it. Now she is 4 and can't come close to the footboards on the V2K. But others may feel differently.
Personally, I never like 'hard and fast' rules like that. But that's me.On the MSF course here in MD they teach you that as long as they can reach the pegs, they can ride.
I totally agree, just stating what was taught and how the law would look at it. That law could fit for some adults too...you know, the ones that are vertically challenged.Personally, I never like 'hard and fast' rules like that. But that's me.
There are plenty of adults who would be unsafe on my bike, even if they can fit the pegs! If they aren't strong enough to hang on in an emergency, attentive enough to pay attention to the rider, and calm enough to sit still and pay attention; and mature enough to understand it's a dangerous and powerful machine if it isn't cared for, then it can be dangerous. Plenty of adults riding their OWN motorcycles fail one or more of those qualifications!
Same with MO. Except for one month of the year; during Sturgis. Apparently the state is losing too much money due to folks riding AROUND us (as the only helmet state in the region) to get to Sturgis. (One might think that a law that can be justly pardoned for a short time need not be enforced any other time, hmm? Is there a purpose to a law that can be turned on and off? But I digress...)VA requires a DOT, SNELL, or ANSI approved helmet for EVERYONE.
Guess I'm not surprised, IL has some pretty lax helmet laws (and some pretty STRICT laws on a lot of other things; go figure!). What I said above; applies to adults! LOL. I sure hope if you're going to ride around with your kid on your back you'll put a decent helmet on their head. Maybe I'm wrong; but I just think kids ought to wear helmets until they are adults and old enough and mature enough to understand the risks and make that decision for themselves.IL has no mandatory helmet law for adults, nor child. All riders must wear eye protection, regardless of age. I just pulled my current copy (2012) of the IL Motor Vehicle statues and there is just nothing there regarding children on bikes.
Well that may be. I admit I cringe when people have somehow convinced themselves that riding WITHOUT is SAFER, even though every legitimate study has disproved that. BUT, if you're willing to understand that it's an additional risk (but so is motorcycling!) and you're okay with that risk; then go for it.Sometimes they're in their 30's or 40's by the time this happens....
Hey, Great question! (Insert puzzled look here.) I'll hit the book and get back to the group. Knowing IL politicians, I bet they too never thought of an exception for bikes! Gee. Does that mean that I can ticket bikers with kids, on bikes, without car seats? Scary thought. I'll be back in a bit...Well that may be. I admit I cringe when people have somehow convinced themselves that riding WITHOUT is SAFER, even though every legitimate study has disproved that. BUT, if you're willing to understand that it's an additional risk (but so is motorcycling!) and you're okay with that risk; then go for it.
But then, I guess taking your kid on a motorcycle AT ALL places certain risks then, so I dunno.... We'll just leave it at "I don't like it" then. It doesn't bother me to see adults riding without a lid. I imagine it would bother me to see a young child out on the open road doing the same.
Bear; I've got a question for ya; what are IL's laws for car seats and booster seats? Reason I ask if I have a niece whose 7 but small for her age and still has to have a booster seat under MO law, so; even if the law allowed her to legally ride the bike; could she ride without a booster seat? Are motorcycles somehow exempt from those sorts of requirements? Just curious here. I just thought of that.