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Lucros 08-27-2018 09:37 PM

Thoughts on the new Harley’s?
 
What are your guys thoughts on the upcoming HD Streetfighter and 1250 Custom? They are liquid cooled (which is a great step forward for Hd) and apparently the new motor is modular so the 975cc on the Streetfighter I would think would be upgradeable to a 1250

Personally I think they both look amazing, the Livewire looks neat, and the adventure bike isn’t really
My cup of tea BUT I appreciate Harley making it


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cfhgarza 08-27-2018 10:06 PM

I'm glad they are trying new things and the bikes all look interesting.

My initial reaction was that they all looked like they had high center of gravities. Maybe they don't but they looked like they engine was mounted up high. Maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about lol

tiny tim 08-28-2018 11:45 AM

The pics I've seen so far look super fantastical to me.Now if they'd just put reasonable price tags on anything they make,but we all know that'll never happen

Curt698 08-28-2018 11:52 AM

I think they have to try new things or the brand will die as each owner dies. Harley needs to attract new owners. I also would consider buying one depending on the price, I'm riding a Vulcan because I refuse to pay the Harley tax.

Lucros 08-28-2018 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tiny tim (Post 2998638)
The pics I've seen so far look super fantastical to me.Now if they'd just put reasonable price tags on anything they make,but we all know that'll never happen



It actually very well might, with trying to bring in a younger fan base they have to realize they need to be reasonable on price


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Lucros 08-28-2018 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Curt698 (Post 2998640)
I think they have to try new things or the brand will die as each owner dies. Harley needs to attract new owners. I also would consider buying one depending on the price, I'm riding a Vulcan because I refuse to pay the Harley tax.



Well not only that but Trump is coming after Harley now as a result of his own actions, and what a croc of crap he’s saying he’s going to slam HD with taxes like they’ve never seen for building a EU factory to handle EU orders because of the tariff that the eu imposed on us because of trump.

This shows something very important, that being that our current POTUS will use his position to target specific companies for doing something he doesn’t like. Complete abuse of power. And he’ll probably get away with it.


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gwaihir 08-28-2018 12:37 PM

I did some test rides on Milwaukee 8 bikes (107 and 114). Leaning angle is still lousy, so the breakes. Vibrations got better: Now, my feets stay on the rests and I have a clear vision. I saw heavily corroded exhausts on some bikes. Some major European Bike magazines made the same observation. So I think, that the quality can be improved.
You must know I'm enigneer: Only technology is worth spending on. A Harley costs the same as a Ninja H2, Ducati V4 Panigale or the Worlds most powerful electric bike "Energica".
If I would put a deposit on a Motorcyle, then on one of those.

VN750Guy** 08-28-2018 02:51 PM

I've never been a fan of Harley's. I ride my Vn750 because it can never be mistaken for a Harley.

Overall, Harley's problem isn't taxes. The company is spread way too thin. By that I mean they're trying to be all things to all people and have a zillion different types of bikes. They cannot sustain this too-wide variety without causing massive issues with their suppliers and the manufacturing lines. Its too complicated.

If Harley still exists 10 years from now I'll bet they significantly cut down on the types of bikes they make. Look at Ford. They're about to stop making most of their types of cars for sale here in the US because its not financially worth making them.

As for all of these younger guys that love sports bikes, lets see what they want to ride 30 or 40 years from now.

Lucros 08-28-2018 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gwaihir (Post 2998652)
I did some test rides on Milwaukee 8 bikes (107 and 114). Leaning angle is still lousy, so the breakes. Vibrations got better: Now, my feets stay on the rests and I have a clear vision. I saw heavily corroded exhausts on some bikes. Some major European Bike magazines made the same observation. So I think, that the quality can be improved.
You must know I'm enigneer: Only technology is worth spending on. A Harley costs the same as a Ninja H2, Ducati V4 Panigale or the Worlds most powerful electric bike "Energica".
If I would put a deposit on a Motorcyle, then on one of those.



A Harley does not cost as much as a H2, that’s all model dependent. The new m8 engines are nice I was more speaking specifically of the new bikes, the electric, adventure, street fighter, and 1250 Custom


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Lucros 08-28-2018 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by VN750Guy** (Post 2998668)
I've never been a fan of Harley's. I ride my Vn750 because it can never be mistaken for a Harley.



Overall, Harley's problem isn't taxes. The company is spread way too thin. By that I mean they're trying to be all things to all people and have a zillion different types of bikes. They cannot sustain this too-wide variety without causing massive issues with their suppliers and the manufacturing lines. Its too complicated.



If Harley still exists 10 years from now I'll bet they significantly cut down on the types of bikes they make. Look at Ford. They're about to stop making most of their types of cars for sale here in the US because its not financially worth making them.



As for all of these younger guys that love sports bikes, lets see what they want to ride 30 or 40 years from now.



I agree they do have to big of a variety and I’ve never been willing to buy a Harley until these new models got announced (so long as they are good).

I honestly do like the softtail slim and the Fat Bob, I think the Bob is absolutely gorgeous.



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