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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-12-2016, 09:07 PM Thread Starter
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Question Bluetooth helmet / brand compatibility

I am confused on this subject and there doesn't seem to be a lot of useful information around.

My friend just bought a Bilt Bluetooth equipped helmet with DWO-4 (whatever that means) and I would like to have rider-to-rider communication with her but I don't know what the compatibility issues are. The Cardo Scala website always refers to use with other Scala products but doesn't come right out and say others are not compatible. So... Is Bluetooth compatible across brands, or not.

Bilt also has DWO-3 and DWO-4 helmets but doesn't make the differences clear. Since I don't need a new helmet I might like to consider a Scala unit but I have no idea if it will pair up with other brands like the Bilt, or whether the DWO thing is at all important in compatibility.

The folks at Cycle Gear where she bought her helmet steered her to the "newer generation" DWO-4. She is not clear what improvements might be between the models, but the DWO-4 was more expensive. I couldn't find any reference to DWO-3/-4 online that didn't reference the Bilt brand. So I guess that means it is not a Bluetooth feature?

Can anyone shed some light on these issues?
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You may want to investigate the Sena 20S. They claim that they are compatible with other systems but I don't have any experience with DWO-4. You can find information for the Sena 20S here: 20S - Sena

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You may want to investigate the Sena 20S. They claim that they are compatible with other systems but I don't have any experience with DWO-4. You can find information for the Sena 20S here: 20S - Sena
Thanks for the link SpinDog. I never heard of them until you posted the link.

Looks like a great unit and claims universal compatibility which is perfect. The latest models seem to be Bluetooth 4.x and the older spec is Bluetooth 3.x, That may be what Bilt is indicating with their DWO-3 and DWO-4 units.

The Sena unit is a bit pricy at the 4.x level. I could just get the new Bilt helmet with 4.x for a few just a dollars more.

Does anyone else have any knowledge or experience with cross-brand compatibility? I've been spending a lot of money on accessories and toys for the new Vulcan. Iould live to save a few bucks if I can.
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Bluetooth devises "should" all pair (talk, hookup to) with each other.
The DWO has to be from the helmet maker only.
Bluetooth has revs which I think are at 4.X now.
Its kind of like a radio. Every radio can receive and play a station doesnt matter how makes the radio. So every bluetooth helmet should work.


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Bluetooth devises "should" all pair (talk, hookup to) with each other.
The DWO has to be from the helmet maker only.
Bluetooth has revs which I think are at 4.X now.
Its kind of like a radio. Every radio can receive and play a station doesnt matter how makes the radio. So every bluetooth helmet should work.
That's what I would have thought too. But Sena sells that "universal compatibility" as a feature, and Cardo Scala makes no mention of it at all. Cardo always mentions pairing with their own products. Hence the question.
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If you think about it, they universally pair to all phones correct? Should be the same for other sets.
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Be forewarned: ChatterBox brand Bluetooth communicators for example will only communicate with their own. When in doubt it's best to ask the manufacturer directly. Don't assume that any two brands are compatible unless specifically noted by the manufacturer.

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Be forewarned: ChatterBox brand Bluetooth communicators for example will only communicate with their own. When in doubt it's best to ask the manufacturer directly. Don't assume that any two brands are compatible unless specifically noted by the manufacturer.
Lol, so much for my brilliant theory!
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Lol, so much for my brilliant theory!
Well it's a fair assumption. The only reason why I know is that I've fallen victim to this myself. It's a free-for-all out there for the moment but eventually the manufacturers, hopefully, will conform to a universal standard.

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On mine about thee of us, each with diffefnt brands, were able to hook into each other.
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