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Newly installed PCV and Autotune

I finally finished wiring in the PCV and Autotune Sunday. I mounted both units behind the right cover, as I really didn't want them on the battery cover. I think this made for a much cleaner install.





I borrowed a map to get started on. I still have to wire in the gear position sensor. First thing I noticed is that the decel afterfire "moved" and the rate of decel is much milder now, I no longer feel like the bike is trying to buck me off over the handlebars! I was able to get out of the neighborhood without multiple explosions or having to coast up to stop signs. That said, I still get some afterfire, but much, much less. At higher speeds/rpms I can still get a real loud pop or two still.

How many Vaquereo Autotune users are there here, or Autotune users in general? I suspect this will be a pretty small croud. Have you tweaked the Autotune table? If so, what were your results? Have you hooked up the gear position sensor and started setting up multiple tables, and how has that worked for you? And I'm trying to understand what conditions would cause you to want to switch between using the base map or tuned map. Perahps a racing table? And finally, anyone have the Power Commander LCD unit, and what is your opinion of that? I doubt however, that I'm gonna dump $300 for a display!

I'm just looking for company with my new Autotune buds, and see how much new stuff I can learn!

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Not to permote another forum, but the vulcanbagger forum has a good writeup on a fella that tapped into the spped sensor with a auto tune setup and created multiple tables for each gear. Dont have access to their forum right now or I'd send you a link. Will check after work. hope this helps. I been thinking of tapping the speed sensor with the auto tune.
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Combat72 has a good write up on this forum. I searched "PCV with Ignition Questions"
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Oldbear,
I have the autotune with gear dependent mapping. Be glad to help you if I can.

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Thanks Frank! I still have to get that extra wire tapped in and hooked up. First thing I'm wanting to hear is if you now think it is worth the extra work? My thinking was that I could lean out 5th and 6th gear fuel ratios for 2,700 to 3,200 (or thereabouts) to increase my mileage, as that is where I'm spinning for over half of my daily commute. What has your experience been so far, if you don't mind sharing with the class?

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I setup the gear advance to do exactly what you are talking about. Lean out the A/F Ratio in 5th and 6th gear in the cruising range. I have been experimenting with the A/F Ratio from 5-20% throttle in the 2,000-3,000 RPM range. DynoJet recommends not to take the A/F Ratio over 14.7. I have used many maps and settings up to this point. Davidsheek was kind enough to send me a copy of his map. I copied the A/F Ratio table from a DynoJet map and the Fuel and Ignition table from David's map to each table (ignition and fuel) and created a gear dependent map.. I let the autotune make adjustments from there. The autotune does make adjustments for each trim table for each gear and you decide to accept or not. I was fighting the decel pop issue (finally resolved, fingers crossed) and decided to start with a 0 map and let the Autotune make adjustments. I started with the adjustment percentage at 20% and gradually reduced it to 5%. I'm pleased with how the bike is running but I haven't made any progress on the increase in fuel mileage. I did not change the ignition advance just the A/F Ratio for 5th and 6th gear. I did not see any real change in the mileage. Under normal riding conditions I get to 180 miles before the fuel light comes on. I recently installed and old map where the A/F Ratio was not leaned out. Still got to 180 miles before the fuel light came on. I will continue to work on the mileage issue. Would I do it all over again?? Yes, I think I would because I enjoy trying different things to try and improve the performance. I think the fuel mileage can be increased, I just haven't hit the right setup yet.

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Where is the Gear position sensor and which wire did you tap? I read your earlier post on the set up, but read it didn't work at first. What was your fix? I currently use DavidS map and let the autotune make corrections. thanks
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Where is the Gear position sensor and which wire did you tap? I read your earlier post on the set up, but read it didn't work at first. What was your fix? I currently use DavidS map and let the autotune make corrections. thanks
I have a picture that was provided to me (I haven't done it yet), but it is at the house. If my senile ol' mind can remember it, I'll post it tonight if no one else has by then.

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I will do a more detailed write up and provide pics after work.
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foater,
Check out this previous thread, it should help you out.

https://www.vulcanforums.com/forums/s...light=combat72

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Wrapped Exhaust Manifold
Kuryakyn ISO Grips with RacnRay Mod
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Ultimate Mid-Rider
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