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Octane at 90?

My owners manual on my 1700 says 90 octane or better. The bike is new and it has about 450 mi on it now.

I checked the forums and I see riders are running anywhere from 87 to 93.

So what is the real deal? Thanks in advance

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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 07-01-2013, 09:41 AM
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I've been going with the 93 to avoid detonation. I'm no mechanic but it would be better to have a little more than less octane.

It just means the fuel should burn a little slower.
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My owners manual on my 1700 says 90 octane or better. The bike is new and it has about 450 mi on it now.

I checked the forums and I see riders are running anywhere from 87 to 93.

So what is the real deal? Thanks in advance

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89 is only one point below Kawi's recommendation of 90. I have found , and this holds true on the sportbikes we work on, that alot of times factory recommended octane levels are a bit higher than what the engine will be happy with. 89 would be a better choice for octane as compared to 93. Too much octane is exactly that, too much. Gas mileage and performance will not be as good as with 89, and I have found most 1700's are happy with 87.

We have a 250 Ninja race bike on the dyno right now. Factory recommends 90 but the owner has been running 93. We performed baseline dyno runs with the 93, drained the tank and carbs, put in 89 and performed back up dyno runs. This little thing picked up over 2 H.P., with the gains starting at 4000 rpm! Major gains as this thing went from 29 h.p. to over 31!

You are still in the breakin period and the running characteristics of the engine have been and will continue to change over the next 1000 miles or so. Taking it easy during breakin actually requires less octane as compared to more aggressive riding that may be done when the skoot is well broken in.

On the next tank try the 89, you may already have somewhat of a baseline idea of how your skoot is running, so let us know what you detect. I am sure there will certainly be no disadvantage, and most (including myself) report slightly better mpg, better throttle response and a little bit smoother running engine.

Both my previous ZX-14's (which also had the factory recommended 90 octane) made more power, got better mpg and ran smoother on....87 octane!!

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Very interesting Ray. I think I may try a tank of 89 at the next fill up.

My bike only has 750 miles so I haven't got a good feel for this one. My M109R didn't like lower octane. It would ping with lower octane fuel around town (without lugging).
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...On the next tank try the 89, you may already have somewhat of a baseline idea of how your skoot is running, so let us know what you detect...
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Thanks for the depth, RACNRAY. I appreciate it. I'll drive it on 89 and report back if its better/worse/same.

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After seeing all the comments a few months ago I started using 87. Had used 93 for the first 5K miles. Ran the last 2K with 87 and can say the only thing I notice is more money in my pocket. Same performance and I think a little better MPG.
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Yep, same as ramdam1. Runs just fine on 87.


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Yep, same as ramdam1. Runs just fine on 87.
Same here, and better mileage to boot!

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I've been running 89 in my vaquero since I've owned it. Now has 6k miles and I'm leaving tomorrow morning for a trip. Think I may try 87 see how it does.

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