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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-07-2019, 09:43 AM Thread Starter
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Kick Stand Strength

So, I've watched many videos showing and describing how to get on a bike with and without a passenger. Stand on floor board lift leg over and get on bike.

But the manual says not to get on the bike while it is on the kickstand?? So is the Voyager 1700 kickstand weak compared to other motorcycles?
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Bike is not stable if not on the stand. Does it really say that?
I always get on any bike when it resting on the stand.
HOW could you not.
Now I dont put weight on the bike when I do that.


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I swing my leg over (while its on the stand) and as soon as my right foot hits the ground I bring it up off the stand. This seems the natural thing to do for me.

I've never trusted putting extra weight (my weight) on the kick stand. Then again, the kick stand on a 750 isn't as robust as on a heavier bike.
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My passenger gets on the bike and sits down with the bike on the stand then I get on and lift the bike off the stand. We are both full size adults and have been doing this way for 30K miles on the Voyager with no problems at all.

Has anybody ever heard of a 1700 Vulcan kickstand breaking? I haven't.
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Well Shawn just occurred to me reading the posts -
MAYBE it states to not let the passenger get on with the bike on the stand.
I always get on first, put the stand up and back out of the parking place if needed, and then my wife gets on while I steady it.
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So, I've watched many videos showing and describing how to get on a bike with and without a passenger. Stand on floor board lift leg over and get on bike.

But the manual says not to get on the bike while it is on the kickstand?? So is the Voyager 1700 kickstand weak compared to other motorcycles?
I would never put my weight or my passenger's weight on the kickstand. I just doesn't seem safe. I don't know about the 1700, but the 900 forum has a lot of messages about worn out kickstand pivots and I always wondered how it was happening. Maybe this is the answer.
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The kickstand being a mechanical piece is subject to failure. Does that mean it will fail ? No but there are a couple of ways it "could" fail. No bike manufacturer is going to give you a green light of putting additional weight on the peg and kickstand while mounting the bike. With that said, it is common practice for people to pull themselves over the bike by putting their weight on the peg , lifting themselves up and over. Riders do it all the time on KLR 650's because of the height of the bike. I've mounted my nomad several times like that, though I don't make a practice of doing so. I have never heard of a kickstand breaking, but I have seen them fail before. If you are going to practice that method of mounting / dismounting use caution and be prepared just in case.
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I seem to remember reading about someone that had it fail. Damned if I can remember which forum it was in or the size bike. I think BikerBill had some issues with his 500 this past year. And I seem to remember someone else saying something about theirs crapping while on a trip but I'm not sure if that memory is accurate.

Regardless, after having mine fall (not related to the kickstand) I really don't want to put any undue pressure on mine so I don't place any butt-weight on mine until I have it where I am standing up. It just feels natural to me: foot over, foot down, bike up, butt down.

Mine has a centerstand, too, and I won't put my extra weight on that either.

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In a similar vein, if I might offer suggestion......try to train yourself to mount and (especially) dismount from the right side of the bike if it's on the side stand. Hard thing to remember to do if you've been riding a while, but can be a definite safety factor.
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In a similar vein, if I might offer suggestion......try to train yourself to mount and (especially) dismount from the right side of the bike if it's on the side stand. Hard thing to remember to do if you've been riding a while, but can be a definite safety factor.
Yes, i have read that is a safer way, which is why Police officers mount/dismount from the right side. The problem is it makes it even higher to get my leg up and over
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