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post #1 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-08-2012, 01:58 PM Thread Starter
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Dealer won't let me "fly before I buy." Voyager comfort compared to HD Ultra Classic

I've run into this more and more as the years go buy. I want to check out a Voyager before I drop my cash and the dealer won't allow test rides, even for serious buyers. Every bike I've ever owned... I rode it first before making a final decision. So far, two dealers in one week have pulled this on me.

My question is: For anyone familiar with the Ultra Classic (2009 or so), how does the Voyager's rear shocks compare to Harley in terms of ride quality and comfort. I noticed the Voyager's shocks are much softer, meaning i can sit on the bike and get a lot of travel, compared to the Harley.

I have played with the air in my Ultra's shocks and to this day, I don't consider them to be very comfortable on anything but the smoothest road... very disappointing for a $22,000 bike.

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post #2 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-08-2012, 02:39 PM
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shocks on Voyager are air and rebound adjustable as well. Maybe the ones you sat on only had a few pounds air in them. Sorry, haven't owned a HD bagger, can't speak for them, I know you can add air, but do they have rebound adjustments as well?

Voyager I bought last December had 300 miles on it, claimed they used it as a demo bike.

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I guess I'm old enough now that dealers granting 'test rides' are a new thing, it certainly doesn't happen in this area and back in the day no such animal as a test ride existed except for rare dealer/manufacturer sponsored events. I certainly don't blame dealers for not allowing test rides either, I personally won't buy a motorcycle with any miles on it and I won't allow test rides on used bikes I've sold... you want, buy it and ride it...

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I test rode an Ultra before buying my Voyager - Both seats felt good and supportive - And you can play with the shocks - Where I found the major difference was the feet - The Ultra cramped my feet - they felt trapped by the lower fairing . . . The Voyager protects them but doesn't box them in . . .

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Victory was the only ones to let me test ride and Harley offered to deduct the cost of a rental bike from the price if I bought. In the end I'm glad I bought the Vaquero even without the test.

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Yeah, my dealer does not allow test rides. From a buyer's point of view, I would love to test ride but, also, I want a brand new bike when I buy, not one that a bunch of people tried out. Just my 2˘.

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I've yet to be able to secure a test ride on a new, dealer-stock metric bike in several years of trying.
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When I was shopping for a bike, the Yamaha guy told me to tell him what I wanted to test ride and he would have it ready when I came in. I actually did not test ride anything there but the Victory dealership (not metric, I know) let me hop on a Cross Country and basically said to go ride and come back when you're done. I've tested bikes at a Honda dealership too during their special test ride days. But only test rode Kawis when they've had an event or at the motorcycle show.

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Harley let me test ride whatever I wanted - Kawi let me test a Vaquero - I figured that was close to the Voyager and went with that . . .

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Thank you for all the replies, I guess not allowing a ride is more common than I thought.

What I'm trying to find out is if the Voyager rear suspension is more comfortable than the Ultra Classic, if anyone has experience with both.

I understand they have the same basic set-up, while Victory Cross Country has a single shock, however.

I don't think my Harley's rear suspension is particularly comfortable and really doesn't impress me, especially knowing how much I paid for it.

Who has ridden both, chosen the Voyager, and why did they choose the Voyager over the Harley as far as comfort is concerned???
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