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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 12-15-2017, 01:05 PM Thread Starter
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Hey everyone, my name is Keith and I’m new around here. I thought I’d show you my bike and some things I am doing to it over the winter.

My bike is a 2012 Voyager with ABS that I bought used this year with 4,680 miles, it still has warranty too.

I will start this thread off by showing you what I had to do to install smoked lenses on my bike.

Like many of you, I have been frustrated with the lack of direct turn signal lens replacement options, so I bit the bullet and bought some nice Vaquero turn signals on eBay. I then found some new smoked turn signal lenses in Germany (on German eBay) and had my friend in Berlin ship them to me.

The company says these lenses don’t fit a Vaquero and technically, they don’t. You have to put the right lens in a left housing and visa-versa, other than that they fit just like they are supposed to and the drains are at the bottom like they should be.

Quality is exactly like the factory lenses. You get a good idea of the size difference from Voyager to Vaquero in my first pic!

Total cost for the Vaquero light assemblies and the lenses is $294 and I actually got an incredible deal
on those Vaquero lights, less than half price and what they usually sell for. I listed my stock light assemblies on eBay and from viewing sold listings, I expect to make my money back.

You can also see that I got rid of that ugly reflector under the license plate light and replaced it with a Kuryakyn Goldwing reflector conversion light. It is a 3 wire light, so you have running and brake light functions. I feel it grounds the center area under the license light housing and gives that area more weight.
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The key isn’t on in the front pic, so the running lights aren’t lit for the signals, but you can see how bright and amber the lens lights when the turn signal is on.

You can also see that Kuryakyn light lit with the running lights. My favorite thing about that light is that it has two rows of LEDs just like the trunk lights and the tail light, so it looks like it came on the bike.

Sorry, my phone is in a waterproof case and often the pictures get flares in them. Also, this forum really destroys the quality of the pictures when they are posted.
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"Lights4all" in Germany, either from their website or their Ebay store. Still so far the only place where you can get either smoked or clear lenses for Vaq turn signals. I've done similar, but used switchback LED bulbs in the front for a color match with all the other LED lighting I have at that end.

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I was going to buy them from Lights4all, but ended up buying from Freestyle_Choppers on German eBay, because they were a better price. They are the same exact lenses that Lights4all sells.

The Lights4all website was a pain to navigate and it wouldn’t charge my card so I emailed them and told the the issues I was having and what they were going on and the people at Lights4all kept INSISTING they wouldn’t fit Vaquero housings (and like I mentioned, technically they don’t).

As a sort of Hail Mary, I was also talking to Lights4all on eBay to purchased these because of the issues I had with their website, but because they swore up and down they wouldn’t fit, they refunded me my money. So, I went with the other seller. Super nice and shipped insanely fast to Berlin. My friend was heading here 3 days after receiving them anyway, that’s why I had them shipped to them, that saved me $40 in shipping!

If you look at the Lights4all website, it says specifically that they are for “Kawasaki VN1700 Voyager Custom (VNT70),2011-(do not fit Vaquero)” Still, they are very nice people.

A note; The “Voyager Custom” is the Vaquero overseas, but for some reason the way the lenses clock in the housings on that bike, it is different than the Vaquero. I can’t understand why a company would make a change like that when everything else is exactly the same.

Either way, the only place to get clear or smoked lenses is from Germany and they do NOT make them for a Vaquero, you have to do as I described in my first post here to use them.

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I bought mine from Lights4all a few years ago and they do fit my (donated by a forum member) Vaq turn signal housings without any issue whatsoever... I wouldn't imagine they've changed them at all, and you're right - they warn they won't fit the Vaquero on their website. That looks very much like a mistake on their part though... Their Ebay store listings show:

"Kawasaki VN 1700 Voyager Custom, 2011 - (Nicht passend für VN 1700 Voyager!)"

Which makes me think they meant to say it won't fit what the rest of the world calls a Voyager?

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I bought mine from Lights4all a few years ago and they do fit my (donated by a forum member) Vaq turn signal housings without any issue whatsoever... I wouldn't imagine they've changed them at all, and you're right - they warn they won't fit the Vaquero on their website. That looks very much like a mistake on their part though... Their Ebay store listings show:

"Kawasaki VN 1700 Voyager Custom, 2011 - (Nicht passend für VN 1700 Voyager!)"

Which makes me think they meant to say it won't fit what the rest of the world calls a Voyager?
It’s not that they don’t fit, they fit fine, you just have to put the left one in the right housing and visa-versa like I described. If the cast printing on the face of your lenses are on the inside of the bike closest to the headlight or tail light and not outside of the turn signals, then you already unknowingly put them on the way I described. You will also noticed they have an “R” for Right and an “L” for Left with that writing on the lenses.

Yes, as I mentioned, nobody makes them for a Voyager at all, they call a Vaquero a “Voyager Custom”, and for some reason, the Voyager Custom uses different housings for the turn signals that look identical but clock the lenses differently, that’s why you have to put the after market lenses in the way I described. You will also note that even in your own quote of their eBay ad, they do not mention at all that they fit a Vaquero.

I see you are in New Zealand, do you guys even get a Vaquero there or is it a Voyager Custom? In America, we don’t get the Voyager Custom, we get the Vaquero. Apparently there are small differences between the two, like the turn signals. It’s no mistake on their part at all when they say it won’t “fit” a Vaquero, as mentioned, it’s because of how the left and right lenses clock in the housings. The reason why there are even a left and right lens is because of the drain in them, it has to be at the bottom.

I contacted them to let them know they do work if you swap the lenses side to side, but they can’t exactly sell lenses that are marked Left and Right and tell their customers to just ignore that and install them in the opposite housings, they can however tell people that others have done that if they email them and ask if they will fit a Vaquero like I did instead of just flat out saying “No”.

The main point of me posting was to show people that these lenses do fit, even though the sellers state that they do not fit.
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Neither the Vaquero or "Voyager Custom" have ever been imported to NZ, and the Voyager was only ever imported the once - in 2010 with a mixture of 2009 & 2010 models - so there's only a few of them down here... I've only ever seen one other, but I'm sure there's more than just the two of us. The importer, Kawasaki NZ, probably moves less bikes than some of the larger single US dealers, so it's not surprising that the selection is limited. I think there are a few 1700 Nomad's & Classic's around as well, but they're even scarcer.

When I bought my clear turn signal lenses back in 2013 Lights4all warned me that the lenses would not fit a Voyager, for the sole reason that the turn signals are a different size. They had no information then that they would not fit a Vaquero, so I found myself a full set of front & rear turn signals off a Vaq, bought the lenses in the hope they'd fit, and they fit perfectly. I don't recall having any difficulty with L & R, but they're marked as you say.

It's only the Voyager with the larger size turn signals. The clear or smoked lenses from Lights4all will fit any 1700 Vaquero, Nomad, or Classic (all of which share the same lens part number). That's the advice I've given on the forums ever since I got mine, and I've never had any feedback that it's been wrong.

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Peg, I’m curious to know, is the writing on your lenses on the inside towards the stalk of the turn signal as depicted in the green area of this picture of my left front turn signal or out in the red area?

Yeah, it doesn’t make much sense that Kawasaki decided to put those giant lollipops on the Voyager only and then used the same Vaquero sized signal on those other bikes, but they also decided that in seemingly the rest of the world, they would call a Vaquero a “Voyager Custom” instead, so who knows what goes through their head when making these decisions.

My front signals actually came from a Nomad and my rears are Vaquero and all the lenses had to be installed in the opposite housing as mentioned to make them work.

I failed to mention that it isn’t just a matter of having the drain at the bottom, it was also so the screw hole would line up with the screw bung that holds the lens inside the housing.
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Yep... Mine are marked L on the R side, and R on the L side, both front and back. It's not something I ever noticed until now.

I don't think anyone else will notice either... But it will probably bother me now.

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Yep... Mine are marked L on the R side, and R on the L side, both front and back. It's not something I ever noticed until now.

I don't think anyone else will notice either... But it will probably bother me now. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.vulcanforums.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG]
See? LOL!

Trust me, I’m Pretty damn anal and I stared long and hard at mine and contemplated sanding the writing off of the lenses and then polishing them back up, but I came to my senses and realized NOBODY will notice that they are flipped side to side.

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