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I just acquired a 2011 Vaquero with 30k miles. The bike is in great condition, with driving lights and a Mustang seat. I have both keys, and one looks unused and even has the tag with the number to get replacements. Unfortunately, I have some issues with these keys. They work fine in the saddle bags, glove boxes and the gas cap, but the ignition is a bit finicky. Sometimes it takes a little wiggling to get the key to turn. The biggest issue is that I can't turn the key in the seat release at all. I have tried pushing down on the seat and even had my wife sit on it while I try to turn the key, but no luck. Anyone have similar issues? Suggestions?
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I just acquired a 2011 Vaquero with 30k miles. The bike is in great condition, with driving lights and a Mustang seat. I have both keys, and one looks unused and even has the tag with the number to get replacements. Unfortunately, I have some issues with these keys. They work fine in the saddle bags, glove boxes and the gas cap, but the ignition is a bit finicky. Sometimes it takes a little wiggling to get the key to turn. The biggest issue is that I can't turn the key in the seat release at all. I have tried pushing down on the seat and even had my wife sit on it while I try to turn the key, but no luck. Anyone have similar issues? Suggestions?
I have experienced something similar in the past and believe it or not, a couple little shots of oil/lubricant in the keyhole was the answer.

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I just acquired a 2011 Vaquero with 30k miles. The bike is in great condition, with driving lights and a Mustang seat. I have both keys, and one looks unused and even has the tag with the number to get replacements. Unfortunately, I have some issues with these keys. They work fine in the saddle bags, glove boxes and the gas cap, but the ignition is a bit finicky. Sometimes it takes a little wiggling to get the key to turn. The biggest issue is that I can't turn the key in the seat release at all. I have tried pushing down on the seat and even had my wife sit on it while I try to turn the key, but no luck. Anyone have similar issues? Suggestions?
Go to a locksmith and get a tube of graphite powder. The trouble with a lot of lubricants although they work fine, is that they attract dirt which sticks in the lock. Graphite works great in the lock's internal mechanism. The seat probably needs some lube on the latch/cable
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I just acquired a 2011 Vaquero with 30k miles. The bike is in great condition, with driving lights and a Mustang seat. I have both keys, and one looks unused and even has the tag with the number to get replacements. Unfortunately, I have some issues with these keys. They work fine in the saddle bags, glove boxes and the gas cap, but the ignition is a bit finicky. Sometimes it takes a little wiggling to get the key to turn. The biggest issue is that I can't turn the key in the seat release at all. I have tried pushing down on the seat and even had my wife sit on it while I try to turn the key, but no luck. Anyone have similar issues? Suggestions?
I also have a Mustang seat for my Voyager (not sure if they are different for the Vaquero). I have trouble unlatching the seat with the key as well. I found that you must play around with the bracket on the seat that is supposed to have come off the original rear seat. The key unlocks this latch so that you can pop it up. I still have to push down on the seat while simultaneously jiggling the key around and pushing it in and turning it counter clockwise (sometimes it looks like I am performing CPR on my rear seat). It is a difficult thing to get but hopefully it will work out for you as you wont be able to adjust that rear seat bracket until the seat is off obviously.

As for the ignition, I have not had that issue but as others have said, be careful with what you put in there as lubricant so as not to attract excess dirt or dust that could worsen the problem.
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When you eventually get the seat off... remove the latch from where it's bolted to the underneath of the seat, and put a couple of washers under the latch to lift it off the seat just a little. I've done that with my Mustang seat, and it fixed the whole "hard to turn the key" problem completely.

zheissler... it's a common issue with the Mustang.
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When you eventually get the seat off... remove the latch from where it's bolted to the underneath of the seat, and put a couple of washers under the latch to lift it off the seat just a little. I've done that with my Mustang seat, and it fixed the whole "hard to turn the key" problem completely.

zheissler... it's a common issue with the Mustang.
Peg - much better idea. Hadn't thought of that. I will try that out.
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A little graphite seems to have done the job on the ignition. Still working on the seat.
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A little graphite seems to have done the job on the ignition. Still working on the seat.
It's pretty good stuff, but it tends to get your fingers dirty

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A little graphite seems to have done the job on the ignition. Still working on the seat.
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It's pretty good stuff, but it tends to get your fingers dirty
You can get it in little squeeze tubes like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Powdered-Grap...e+squeeze+tube

You can usually puff plenty into a lock without making a mess. They used to sell it a ACE, Home Depot, etc. Doesn't take much. I have a tube that is about 20 years old and it still has some left in it.

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Gunk makes a spray product called "Liquid Wrench Dry Lube" in a spray can. Sprays like a liquid but drys immediately so it doesn't attract dirt. Works great, and with the little spray tube can get into tiny places.

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