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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 06-13-2019, 05:38 PM Thread Starter
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Smart Turn System self cancelling turn signals

Is anyone familiar with this $99 module (the ST2 module), that provides self cancelling turn signals for the VN900? The science behind it sounds interesting. I believe the VN900 is compatible with it, but I'm not 100% sure. I went to the website to check, but chose not to put my email address in to find out. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this? Thanks. The product website is:

https://safer-turn.com/product/smart-turn-system/
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Pretty cool, but I've finally managed to train myself to kill the damn signal at every turn, I'm going to stick with it. And if you were to jump on a bike without this after getting used to it?!?!? Faggetaboutit.

Gone are the days we stop to decide where we should go, we just ride.
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I must admit that after 23 years of riding a Honda Pacific coast for 80,000 +miles, I was somewhat surprised/disappointed that my new 2018 Vulcan Classic LT, lacked the self-cancelling signal function that I had enjoyed all those years!
Probably saves Kawasaki $25.00. I would happily pay them $100, for the convenience and safety.
Although I haven't explored it further, I believe KISAN offer a similar product to STS. They also market a plug in fuse replacement option(10APF) It requires a dedicated fuse for the turn signals but I'm not sure if our LT's are compatible.

My manual cancelling thumb does not always operate at 100% efficiency. Hopefully it won't take me another23 years!
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My manual cancelling left thumb does not work at 100 percent efficiency either. I find in urban traffic in the DFW area that something frequently distracts me (something I have to pay attention to) immediately after a turn. That's when I forget to cancel the turn signal. I have tried to train myself to cancel immediately after a turn, regardless if I used the signal or not. This hasn't stuck yet.
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After 30+ years of manually cancelling, I now have a Vaquero with self cancelling signals. Biggest PITA ever! Nearly every stop I make, the signal cancels while I'm waiting to turn. Sometimes before I come to a stop. I had seen this problem on friend's bikes in the past, so it's not a Vaquero problem. This is more annoying and just as dangerous as leaving them on.
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Its called muscle memory.
If you do something enough times you will remember.
SO you need to be very conscious of canceling your signal right after a turn, for two weeks and then you will always do it.

Never have a problem with my left thumb.
Dont know why you want or need this thing.


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2 weeks

I've been riding steadily for over 2 years, and it still hasn't stuck 100% of the time.
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myself cancelling indicators.

After many honks and hoots, angry waves and fist shaking I fitted an indicator buzzer. It sounds a bit annoying at times, but always reminds me so I'm going to leave it on. I've transferred it to each of my last 4 bikes.
Am I missing something or am I a bit dumb. How does the self cancelling unit work?
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I don't know the principle behind the Vaquero system, but the PC800 worked on a lean angle system. Once the turn signal switch was activated the indicators would blink until you had turned and subsequently returned the bike to it's vertical position. Although there was a time limiter also, in all my 23 years riding it, it only came into play on 3 occasions! It was a faultlessly designed and engineered system in true Honda style.
As to you other question, i will refrain from answering it. LOL !
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BikeMadPete, from reading about this particular unit, I'm guessing it works like this. It has a microprocessor, an accelerometer on a chip, and a magnetic compass on a chip. I don't know if it has a lean angle sensor. It samples 300 times per second. It also times out and cancels after 14 seconds of activation. That's the same issue SteveJB was discussing with his 1700 Vulcan.

My opinion is, if you have a timeout feature built into the device, then you're not that confident that you know when to cancel.

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