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ABS Brakes - Yes or no?

Most of you already know just how simple it is to tell if a bike has ABS brakes, but I put this together just in case some folks don't yet know. Includes how to tell on a Harley (which is quite different - go figure). Personally, I hope they add ABS to the 900 for 2020, but that's just me.

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Anyone else wish the 900 came with an ABS option? Or is it just me...
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It's probably just a matter of time before all new bikes are required to have ABS. I rode a 900 for 10 years. I now have a Vaquero with ABS. It took me a little while to get used to it because I have a tendency to stay on the brakes a bit as I corner and you can feel the front let go at about 10 mph. But like MC Rider says, you should really only feel a difference when you need it. So far I haven't needed it, but it's good to know I have it.
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It's probably just a matter of time before all new bikes are required to have ABS. I rode a 900 for 10 years. I now have a Vaquero with ABS. It took me a little while to get used to it because I have a tendency to stay on the brakes a bit as I corner and you can feel the front let go at about 10 mph. But like MC Rider says, you should really only feel a difference when you need it. So far I haven't needed it, but it's good to know I have it.
I've heard a rumor that the 2020 Vulcan 900 will offer ABS as an option. Not sure whether I believe it or not, but I'm hopeful.
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ABS has been required in the EU for several years. I have it on a couple of other bikes and value it greatly for the backup resistance to a lock-up at the wrong time. I will say that without it, the Vulcan 900 suffers safety-wise on worn tires... a fresh sticky set really adds to the traction budget available for turning and hard stops. Skill at progressive braking adds a lot to stopping power. But ABS would be great on the bike. I think N. America will have it soon by regulation.

I've never had an off because of locking up the brakes on a bike, but all it takes is the right puddle of oil, antifreeze or horse s**t in exactly the wrong place, and wham... at least when going fairly straight, ABS will get you through a lot of those places when you might not have let off the brakes fast enough with a sudden trip through zero traction.

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he started yelling and screaming, come on bike go, go, dam it he screamed, That was a guy infront of our motel yelling at his bike stopped in the middle of the highway as a transport truck came barrelling down on him, ya ABS right, we helped him with his abs bike on the ferry, he has problems with the front caliper so my friend did a make-shift fix for his to keep going when we got off the ferry, ya abs right, once one wheel detects a problem the whole braking system wants to lock up which he experienced 1st hand, ya abs right, your method may vary

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he started yelling and screaming, come on bike go, go, dam it he screamed, That was a guy infront of our motel yelling at his bike stopped in the middle of the highway as a transport truck came barrelling down on him, ya ABS right, we helped him with his abs bike on the ferry, he has problems with the front caliper so my friend did a make-shift fix for his to keep going when we got off the ferry, ya abs right, once one wheel detects a problem the whole braking system wants to lock up which he experienced 1st hand, ya abs right, your method may vary
I'd still rather have abs. The odds of having a caliper seize from an abs malfunction is very slim. I would bet there was other variable in play for that situation

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It's the first I've ever heard anything about ABS seizing a caliper.

ABS is a fused system. Remove the fuse, the system is disabled.

With a wheel sensor or other failure, the default behavior is, the ABS light flashes and the system is disabled. An error code is written to the OBD.

It sounds like btom's friend had a seized caliper piston.

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he started yelling and screaming, come on bike go, go, dam it he screamed, That was a guy infront of our motel yelling at his bike stopped in the middle of the highway as a transport truck came barrelling down on him, ya ABS right, we helped him with his abs bike on the ferry, he has problems with the front caliper so my friend did a make-shift fix for his to keep going when we got off the ferry, ya abs right, once one wheel detects a problem the whole braking system wants to lock up which he experienced 1st hand, ya abs right, your method may vary
Your one example doesn't stack up well vs. the thousands of instances where ABS has saved the day.
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It would seem to me that ABS would be good on a VN900 but it is most useful in hard and emergency stop situations. I ride so that I try to avoid those but sometimes hard stop situations occur when unexpected. If ABS on both wheels is activated by braking on only one wheel that would be useful in emergency stops.

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