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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 02-17-2012, 02:32 PM Thread Starter
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Big Mistake - test rode R1200RT

Guys...the Vulcan is my 1st bike and has been great. To those with any interest the BMW R1200RT is one amazing machine. Absolutely (and I have some experience with this) NO buffeting. The windshield is adjustable on the go. It felt rock stable at 90mph. The weight, balance is amazing. It is my understanding that it is the world's #1 police bike. I can see why.

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We both love our 900s but the BMWs are a step above most bikes in build quality, technology, and price.

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I recently road a Kawasaki 1400 GTR ABS - I believe its called a Concours 14 in the US.
This thing is awesome I just want one.
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BMW's are nice motorcycles. They handle well, go fast, and are reasonably comfortable. However, I don't believe their reliability is on a par with the Vulcans. And before plunking down $20 large on the RT, be aware that they are very expensive to own. Maintenance is very costly, and in order to not have your warranty voided by BMW, you must bring the bike in for its service intervals--about every 3000 to 5000 miles. And be prepared to leave anywhere between $300 to $600 at the dealer when you pick it up. Another thing to consider is the relative lack of dealer network. Not like the Japanese dealerships which are everywhere. And the cost of accessories will make you gasp and choke!! Jus' sayin'

OTOH, while I hated the R1150RT I had for a short time, I found that it was a good-looking bike, was comfortable and was a good handler. Aside from that, it felt lacking in power and the engine was rough--lots of high frequency vibrations--and the gearing was all wrong for any in-town riding. It was fine in 6th gear out on the highway above 65 mph. But 6th was so high there wasn't any feeling of power.

OK, my rant is over. I like how the R1200RT sits and feels, but I don't think I'd care for the price of admission. But if I were to buy a Beemer, it would more likely be the R1250GS. You'd think it's the same as the RT but without the fairing, but it's different in many ways. MHO.

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Guys...the Vulcan is my 1st bike and has been great. To those with any interest the BMW R1200RT is one amazing machine. Absolutely (and I have some experience with this) NO buffeting. The windshield is adjustable on the go. It felt rock stable at 90mph. The weight, balance is amazing. It is my understanding that it is the world's #1 police bike. I can see why.
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/26525/...W-R1200RT.aspx
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Guys...I am just smitten with this bike. It is a 500lb sport tourer with 100bhp engine. It is so nimble. The wind management is outstanding. Maintenance and cost of ownership are definte considerations. This why I like the r bikes vs k bikes. I wish Kawi dealers would allow demo rides on the Connie 14 but having sat on one numerous times, the handlebars are too narrow, likely more of a handful in the bends. Anyway I love my Vulcan and I love that chromed cruiser look but the Beemer literally inspires confidence, perhaps dangerously so. I have yet to mention its brakes, they really work. Thanks for all the replies.

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+1 to Nomad. One of the big keeping points with my Vulcan is cost of maintenance, or in our case, the lack thereof. About a year ago, I came across two men out for an early spring ride: 2008 Wing and 2009 K1100LT. Both bikes has over 30,000 miles. As we admired each others bikes, I asked about cost of ownership. Both mentioned that their beginning of season service had run over $900 each; I mentioned that my spring service was $35, meaning oil, filter, new tire pressure gauge, time spent cleaning all the chrome. After 8,000 miles last season, I didn't do anything to the bike except gas her up, check the oil level, check tire pressure, clean again. In a few weeks, another $35 for oil, filter, cleaning.

I buy a bike to enjoy, but also to lower my overall transportation costs. I can't see spending all that coin for entry and maintenance to gain a very, very small enjoyment margin. I'll stick with my V9D.

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Both mentioned that their beginning of season service had run over $900 each; I mentioned that my spring service was $35,
My buddies K1200s has a $400 oil change, has to leave the bike at the dealer, has to take it to the dealer where he purchased it as no other will do the work and voids the warranty if he or a regular dealer changes the oil.

He has it up for sale right now, its an awesome bike to ride, but the cost to purchase and the cost to maintain it is crazy.

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I recently road a Kawasaki 1400 GTR ABS - I believe its called a Concours 14 in the US.
This thing is awesome I just want one.
I'd like to have one, too. Oh, wait...

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seems like all agree that they are awesome bikes, but expensive to own. I guess decisions to make. I will clarify the self service vs dealer service for warrantee maintenance. I was questioned the same with my Nissan truck but provided receipts for filter and all was good. I will inquire. Thanks for the feedback.

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