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Stop n Go Law for Motorcyclists

Anybody live in a state that lawfully allows motorcycles to stop at a red light and go through it while still red? Rider safety and signal sensors failing to recognize that a MC is present are two reasons I can think of for allowing it. I'm often concerned about getting "rear ended" while waiting at a signal.

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Here's the law that Minnesota has on the books.

MN Red Light Law
169.06 SIGNS, SIGNALS, MARKINGS.
Subd. 9.Affirmative defense relating to unchanging traffic-control signal.
(a) A person operating a bicycle or motorcycle who violates subdivision 4 by entering or crossing an intersection controlled by a traffic-control signal against a red light has an affirmative defense to that charge if the person establishes all of the following conditions:
(1) the bicycle or motorcycle has been brought to a complete stop;
(2) the traffic-control signal continues to show a red light for an unreasonable time;
(3) the traffic-control signal is apparently malfunctioning or, if programmed or engineered to change to a green light only after detecting the approach of a motor vehicle, the signal has apparently failed to detect the arrival of the bicycle or motorcycle; and
(4) no motor vehicle or person is approaching on the street or highway to be crossed or entered or is so far away from the intersection that it does not constitute an immediate hazard.
(b) The affirmative defense in this subdivision applies only to a violation for entering or crossing an intersection controlled by a traffic-control signal against a red light and does not provide a defense to any other civil or criminal action.

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We do not have it here in Ga., but I frequent Tn. which does allow it. There you must wait a reasonable time for it to change. If it does not change after 2 cycles or about 2 minutes, you can proceed if safe and does not effect other traffic. If you are involved in an accident doing so, you are at fault reguardless of how it happened. I got stuck at a light here in Ga. last weekend that would not change, had about 12-15 cars behind me. Next car behind me ran it after awhile. A couple minutes later I did also. After the car then behind me pulled up, it changed, I saw the light turn yellow in my mirror, then red.Once the car pulled up to where I was, it changed. I sat there about 5-7 minutes waiting.

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Here in MO; we have a similar law to what's been posted. You cannot stop, put a foot down, then take off. You have to wait an "unreasonable amount of time". Meaning you've been stuck there for a couple of minutes and it's obvious the light isn't going to change. The law is meant to solve the issue of motorcycles not tripping the magnetic sensors under the street. Some states have laws requiring a set amount of 'cycles'. The only time I've "used it" though was a light that didn't cycle. I was turning left across a four-lane state highway, which; of course, has a light. All four lanes had a green light and the left-turn lane, which would've caused the eastbound lanes lights to turn red so I could make the turn, is always red unless there's a car there (no reason to stop traffic for an unoccupied lane; especially when traffic is moving 65mph!). After sitting for a couple of minutes, I finally went through when there was no traffic.

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I live in mn as well and i have run the red before however i won't run it until i have backed the bike up at least twice to try and re trip the sensor, figure I'll make it look like I'm trying if the cops decide to pull me over.
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Texas has no such provision. There are traffic lights in my town that will not "see" my bike. At those intersections, I try to line up directly over the "V" ( > ) where the pavement cut lines cross, that is where the sensor is. It has worked once or twice, when it doesn't I will go on when the roads are clear, if not I move up as much as I can and the car behind me moves up, then the sensor finds the car..... Either way it is a hassle, because just like above if I am involved in a wreck it's my baby if I live through it....

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TN has it. The talk I've heard deliberately misunderstands to think you can run red lights, cut across oncoming traffic, etc. Stupid people.
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Yes in TN we can go on a red light after coming to a complete stop and ensuring it is safe to proceed if the light has not changed after a cycle. Once you know the roads you learn which lights will not recognize you so then you are prepared to go if it is safe.

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In Illinois 625 ILCS 5/11-306 (c) covers this. It's legal in any city with a population less than 2 Million, which I think just outlaws the practice in Chicago. After a 120 second wait a motorcyclist can proceed as long as it's safe to do so.

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