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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-17-2014, 05:29 PM Thread Starter
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Had a General Altimax HP 195/55/16 installed on my '12 Vaquero yesterday. 200 miles so far and I'm likin it a lot. I was only getting 5-6k out of a Bridgestone, and had even worse luck with Dunlop on my old 900. I rode 15k last year and am on a pace to break 20k this year. And...I'll be retiring in the next year or so, so my miles logged is only gonna go up. I researched long and hard on the net and got some really good input on here. (specifically diehard rider) My riding buddy runs a ct on his Goldwing and he's had nothing but great results. My analysis is this: my bike handles exactly the same as with a Bridgestone Excedra. However, it does feel a little different. Almost as if the rear is slightly under-inflated. It's a smoother ride and as I learned to trust it more yesterday, I was scrapin my floorboards on both sides. I rode some my of local twisties and it handled great for me. In closing, it's gonna work for me. I would certainly recommend tryin it to an experienced rider who logs the miles. The price difference is a no-brainer and the hassle of putting tires on your sled 3 or 4 times a year is no longer an issue. Be safe out there, Dan
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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-17-2014, 10:37 PM
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I went darkside about a month ago and now have about 1500 miles on it. Took my a little longer to adjust than it did you, but am good now. I went with a OHTSU FP6000, in a 205/60/16 on my Voyager. Started out at 46lbs. After 2 days I dropped it to 43lbs, big mistake, felt like a flat tire then. Upped it to 50lbs, then a few days later dropped it to 47lbs and thats were I think I'll keep it, 51lbs is max on sidewall. This is the tire I got at Discount tire online.
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I went to a CT earlier this year. I have a couple thousand miles on it now. My conclusion: I'll never go back to an Mc tire! I'm looking to double darkside when my front needs a replacement as well. Like you said... lots of research and seat time for me to before I was conviced.

The biggest thing I tell people with handling is: 1) it feels "different" (not worse) heading into corners, and 2) the bike feels "different" (not worse) on heavily pitched roads. I ride a lot of back roads that are 1 lane and are pitched for water runoff. The bike feels like it wants to lean while riding straight, and feels like it requires more effort to keep it up. It's a minor adjustment that you get used to... definitely a good tradeoff for longevity and braking contact!
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my 900 is the 2nd bike I've gone dark side with. Switched it over to the same General Altimax tire, though a slightly different size to suite my bike. I definitely like the longer wear life, especially sine my stock Dunlop only lasted a little over 5,000 miles.

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I put 35,000 on my V2K with a Goodyear Triple Tread and it still had lots of tread left.
I just put a Goodyear Assurance all season on my Voyager 205 60 16, have plenty of room, not rubbing anything. I'm sure I will like it just as well.

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Where are you guys getting your car tires mounted? I spoke with two shops and they both said they would not mount due to liability issues...
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Where are you guys getting your car tires mounted? I spoke with two shops and they both said they would not mount due to liability issues...
Usually if you remove wheel and take your CT and wheel to an independent shop they'll mount it. Increase your odds by buying your CT from that independent shop. Always good to help the mom and pops. Used tire stores are a good source for mounting as well.

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[QUOTE My conclusion: I'll never go back to an Mc tire!

The biggest thing I tell people with handling is: 1) it feels "different" (not worse) heading into corners, and 2) the bike feels "different" (not worse) on heavily pitched roads. It's a minor adjustment that you get used to... definitely a good tradeoff for longevity and braking contact![/QUOTE]

That sums it up.
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The first one I had put on my V2K was done at the local Kawasaki dealer. He said he had no problem putting it on for me.
The one I have on my Voyager now, was put on at a local tire shop. I bought the tire there and they actually said they could mount it without me even asking.

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All 3 major shops and dealerships would not mount the CT for me. I ended up going to a small bike mechanic to have it done. There is a darkside forum page that lists shops for different areas that have installed CTs for people in the past... As well as recommendations and comments for those shops. If I can find the link I'll post it later
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