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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 03-28-2016, 12:26 PM Thread Starter
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New to me 1600 with problems

Hello all. I just purchased a new to me 2007 Nomad 1600. I've had a 900 Classic LT and been on this board for years. I'm trying to do some trouble shooting on this new bike. It has approx 41,000 miles, new fuel injectors, new fuel pump, baron big air kit, TFI fuel controller. California model that appears to have the charcoal canister removed. Bike will start, idle (roughly), but when put in gear sputters under load and usually dies. Can't get it started after that. The TFI fuel controller is very very beat up. The 4 pods don't really have adjustable screws anymore, so I've ordered a PowerCommander III to replace it. (Wanted that anyway) Anybody have ideas of what I can check in the mean time? Should the reed valves be removed? Not sure if he has them plugged, as I'm not really sure where to following the piping.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Vance & Hines pipes
Throttle lock
Passenger floor boards
Mustang seat with driver backrest
Highway pegs
PCV with Autotune
Kuryakyn power point
Highway bars
Kuryakyn highway pegs
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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old 03-28-2016, 05:31 PM
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Remove fuel controller and try again. It should run without it.
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Removing the controller was my first thing I did. Ran even worse without the controller. I can only assume that is because with all the stock air stuff removed the stock ecu just can't compensate for the amount of air coming in. I may be way off, but thats all I can figure.

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Baron Big Air
Vance & Hines pipes
Throttle lock
Passenger floor boards
Mustang seat with driver backrest
Highway pegs
PCV with Autotune
Kuryakyn power point
Highway bars
Kuryakyn highway pegs
Former owner of a 2008 Honda Rebel
Owner of a 1994 Honda Magna

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post #4 of 37 (permalink) Old 03-28-2016, 07:03 PM
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Have you tried cleaning the throttle body? Look it up on vulcanbagger.com

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Can't get it started after that. .
Ryan
So are you saying that it will not start now?
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I will clean the throttle body when I get the PCIII controller. Without the old TFI controller the bike won't really start. It does, but then dies within just a few seconds of starting.

2008 Vulcan Classic LT
Baron Big Air
Vance & Hines pipes
Throttle lock
Passenger floor boards
Mustang seat with driver backrest
Highway pegs
PCV with Autotune
Kuryakyn power point
Highway bars
Kuryakyn highway pegs
Former owner of a 2008 Honda Rebel
Owner of a 1994 Honda Magna

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It should start and run without the controller. If it will not, there is something wrong and adding a controller could just cover up the issue and add more confusion.

Post a picture of the plugs.
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post #8 of 37 (permalink) Old 03-29-2016, 08:39 AM Thread Starter
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Once I get off work later today I'll get pictures of the plugs. I'll also try and contact the seller to see if he can give me more background info on any problems and changes to the bike. If I can narrow down when the problems started, ie after air kit, jets, etc, then maybe we can figure out where to go next. Thanks

2008 Vulcan Classic LT
Baron Big Air
Vance & Hines pipes
Throttle lock
Passenger floor boards
Mustang seat with driver backrest
Highway pegs
PCV with Autotune
Kuryakyn power point
Highway bars
Kuryakyn highway pegs
Former owner of a 2008 Honda Rebel
Owner of a 1994 Honda Magna

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So I have an update. I'm sorry it took me a few days, but it has been SNOWING here for the last 3 days, and I didn't have a place to work. Anyway I'm pretty sure that the catalytic converter is bad. Either melted or plugged. I got the new fuel processor installed. I left my map at stock settings, and started it up. It ran very well for a few minutes, but in the short period of time the CC got really hot. I loaded a map that more closely reflects the condition of my bike, ie big air kit etc, and it ran, but got progressively worse. The CC got red hot and then the bike died. Can't hardly get it to run at that point. Plugs don't tell me much cause the PO that sold me the bike had just put new ones in. Only about 10 miles on those plugs.
So with that being said, can I remove the CC from the bike and pipe through, or do I have to buy a special kit? I'm not in California.
Thanks again for the help, and please if you know, let me know if I can remove the CC.

2008 Vulcan Classic LT
Baron Big Air
Vance & Hines pipes
Throttle lock
Passenger floor boards
Mustang seat with driver backrest
Highway pegs
PCV with Autotune
Kuryakyn power point
Highway bars
Kuryakyn highway pegs
Former owner of a 2008 Honda Rebel
Owner of a 1994 Honda Magna

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What causes a catalytic converter to glow is excessively rich fuel mixture, so the "now" bad cat is the consequence, not the initial problem. That problem still exists by evidence of the still red cat, which is now rendered useless.
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