Chain conversion woes... - Kawasaki Vulcan Forum : Vulcan Forums
 2Likes
  • 2 Post By doomer
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-03-2016, 12:44 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: West Texas
Posts: 127
Chain conversion woes...

Can't find a custom front sprocket maker that has a broach for the oddball 16-spline hub on the V2K countershaft. Tried Sprocket specialties, Rebel Gears and another guy in Oregon I can't remember right now. Everyone says it's an oddball spline. There was a bike at a dealership in Albuquerque that was chain drive. Anybody know where that bikes front sprocket was made?
doomer is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-03-2016, 10:43 PM
BOTM Winner
October 2016

 
V2K_Rod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Portsmouth, VA
Posts: 537
Call these guys.
http://www.fluidmotorunion.com/hell-...ls-the-finale/

May have to swap out your swingarm.

I remember that bike in Albuquerque, they wanted 27k for it in 2008.




Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk
V2K_Rod is offline  
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-04-2016, 12:21 PM
Senior Member
 
Fordiesel69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 127
Garage
In my opinion, a belt is far superior and way safer. If that chain ever breaks and gets jammed up, you are DEAD. If the belt ever breaks, it will eject.

I have had only 2 chains break, one on a suzuki 250 quad, the result was a broken engine case and the rear tire locked, then on a Kawasaki KT250 the link broke and cuased it to derail into the back rim. I went face down instantly.

Chains - Offroad

Belts - On Road.

-2006 Yamaha Stratoliner XV1900, 13k miles.
-2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 900, 14k miles, Blue Collar Bobber Build.
-1976 Kawasaki KT250 trials - all original.
-1975 Kawasaki KT250 trials - beater.
-1975 2x Suzuki RL250 trials bikes.
Fordiesel69 is offline  
 
post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-04-2016, 08:50 PM
BOTM Winner
October 2016

 
V2K_Rod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Portsmouth, VA
Posts: 537
Motorcycles are inherently dangerous. You should quit riding.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk
V2K_Rod is offline  
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-05-2016, 03:56 AM
Top Contributor
 
Join Date: May 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 918
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by V2K_Rod View Post
Motorcycles are inherently dangerous. You should quit riding.

Sent from my Shitzu-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk
That was rude...

It basically boils down to this: chains = least amount of power loss to rear wheel; BUT, require the most maintenance. I HATE chains with a passion. Not because I have had traumatic experiences with them, I just hate the constant up-keep. It rains, clean and lube it. Ride a couple hundred miles, clean and lube it. Not only that, the dang lube is messy as heck. Some lube claims to not sling, but it still does. The crap gets on your tire and you may find yourself kissing the asphalt.

Belts are middle of the road as for power loss and and much easier for maintenance. Nice thing about belts, you don't have to replace sprockets like with chains. Plus, belts are virtually maintenance free; meaning, more time riding and less time jerking the chain (a porn magazine might help out during lubrication).

Yeah, so what if bikes are inherently dangerous. Walking out the front door is dangerous, but that doesn't keep us from doing it. Instead, it allows us to find BETTER ways of going out the front door which may reduce risk.

Oh, and if you respond with some FU remark, go look in a mirror and deal with it. You got two on the bike. Have a nice day
crazyriderguy is offline  
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-05-2016, 04:07 AM
BOTM Winner
October 2016

 
V2K_Rod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Portsmouth, VA
Posts: 537
Nice 300mm with chain...


Last edited by V2K_Rod; 10-05-2016 at 04:16 AM.
V2K_Rod is offline  
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-05-2016, 08:06 AM
BOTM Winner
October 2016

 
V2K_Rod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Portsmouth, VA
Posts: 537
OEM chain on a Vulcan Drifter...



Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk
V2K_Rod is offline  
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-07-2016, 11:42 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: West Texas
Posts: 127
Thanks for the contact. I e-mailed them and they responded that they don't remember the build (!) but that they are willing to work with me, which is great.

The guy at Superior Sprockets in Oregon sent me a sprocket right away to see if it fit. It didn't, but he is a super nice and helpful guy, so I'm pretty confident I can put a chain on the V2K. Just gotta keep looking.

As far as the shaft/belt/chain debate goes, I just say that it is a personal preference of mine. I prefer the way a chain looks, and that is what is most important to me. That usually avoids the debate, which is important because as you can see, it causes people who would otherwise get along just fine to start arguing and it can actually get nasty.

As far as chains breaking, I know a guy who went down on a bike on the highway because of a broken chain and got hurt really bad. Was the tension right? Was it stretched beyond spec? Was it properly lubed? I don't know, but I bet one or all of these were the cause of the breakage.

I personally know another guy whose middle drive locked up on a Yamaha XS1100 shaft drive bike and also went down.

If a belt breaks, you can't say what it will do. I've seen a serpentine belt on a car engine break and wrap itself tight around the engine pulley. Saw this myself, not heard about it. The belt shredded before it broke and the strings wound around as it continued to run. You can"t say a broken belt will fly off.

And the "motorcycles are inherently dangerous" comment was taken as rude, but you know, it's true. When a belt breaks on a car, it's nothing like a belt breaking on a bike.

I've been riding for 44 years. (My God, where did the time fly...) Back in the day, there were chains, and we learned to care for them. The chain maintenance problem is 100% BS created by motorcycle marketing. It is not an issue. Let me explain...

I commute on a motorcycle, about 100mi. per day, in almost any weather. This is how it works:

When I get home, I ride into the garage and stop the bike. I put it up on the center-stand. For you young riders, this is a thing that every motorcycle used to have. It lifts the bike up on 2 little metal legs at the rear and the front tire, like a tripod, with the back wheel up in the air.

I take a little squirt bottle full of gear lube, turn the rear wheel a few revolutions while squirting some lube on the chain.

I take my handy rag I keep by the bike and wipe off the swingarm, chain guard, and any other spots a little gear oil has flung to. There is none on my tire because that only happens when you put too much gear oil on the chain, and you learn how much to put pretty quickly. You don't have much to wipe off and it's always in the exact same places. I can do all of this in the dark and it takes a maximum of 2 minutes, closer to one minute really. Then I go in the house.

That's it. Less than 10 minutes a week, and my chains last forever - 50,000 miles plus. I check the tension once a month or so, but rarely have to adjust.

There is a huge problem with this. Nobody is making any money off of me. I'm not buying any high-tech, expensive chain lube spray and I never soak or brush my chain because it is always clean. The "fling" that advertisers have convinced everyone is bad actually cleans the chain. The dirt flings off with the gear lube. Since you lube it every day, it is getting cleaned every day. Chain maintenance is like maintaining healthy teeth. You don't brush the crap out of them once a month, you brush them every day. Easy.

And nobody can sell me a heavy, inefficient shaft drive bike by telling me lies about chain maintenance. I'm also not a buyer for a bike with an outrageously expensive belt that can't be changed without taking the bike half apart. I see through all these lies, so my kind had to be gotten rid of and the motorcycle industry did this through relentless misinformation by advertisement. The new generation will have nothing to do with chains because they have all been brainwashed. And yet, every racing motorcycle on the planet has a chain - right out for everybody to see.
V2K_Rod and Kleinerfrank like this.
doomer is offline  
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-07-2016, 06:36 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: West Texas
Posts: 127
As soon as I saw this I started looking for the front sprocket. I didn't find a 1500 Drifter with a chain, only a 800 Drifter, and that sprocket uses a different spline. Bummer. Cool bikes though.
doomer is offline  
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-07-2016, 07:12 PM
BOTM Winner
October 2016

 
V2K_Rod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Portsmouth, VA
Posts: 537
The V2K seems to share some parts with some of the older ZX bikes, from looking at parts diagrams. I would not be surprised if the spline is cross referenced with another bike. Worth a shot?!?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk
V2K_Rod is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Chain Drive Conversion Rescue Wagon Vulcan 900 35 02-24-2016 10:59 PM
belt to chain conversion? ratsbybuster Vulcan 2000 3 12-13-2010 03:10 PM
Parts ordering woes... at-home-daddy General Vulcan Talk 11 06-05-2010 01:20 PM
Electrical woes hillikus General Vulcan Talk 2 10-10-2009 09:40 AM
Speedometer woes burtw276 Vulcan 1600 3 02-12-2009 02:48 PM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome