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Tell me again why we're supposed to use a programmer? I finally got around to installing mine yesterday, and to be honest.... don't notice a huge difference, if any

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Which one did you install?

And do you also have aftermarket air intake and pipes?

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Tell me again why we're supposed to use a programmer? I finally got around to installing mine yesterday, and to be honest.... don't notice a huge difference, if any

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Wouldn't know, never Had one
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Tell me again why we're supposed to use a programmer? I finally got around to installing mine yesterday, and to be honest.... don't notice a huge difference, if any

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I installed V&H pipes and a Baron BAK on my 04 and ran it since new with no programmer. I did have a V&H programmer installed by V&H at the JP cycle facility in Sturgis in 2009 but it caused all kinds of havoc with my bike. Stalling, hard start, drop in hp and torque, FI light on all the time etc. I took it back twice for programming but they were unable to find a program that was acceptable. JP Cycle took the programmer back and refunded me. I have run ever since then with the stock FI and no issues. If anything, plugs and pipes show a bit rich. We are at some altitude here so that may make a difference....?

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Hey Smed.. DynoJet PC lll USB. I have an intake and Hard Kromes 3" exhaust. I found a program for that and installed it. Did a pretty good ride today, about 800 km, bike ran really good overall, little hard to start sometime, had to give slight throttle to get it to fire sometimes.

I'm thinking if I'm going to see any real benefits from this thing, it needs to go on a dyno

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Hey Smed.. DynoJet PC lll USB. I have an intake and Hard Kromes 3" exhaust. I found a program for that and installed it. Did a pretty good ride today, about 800 km, bike ran really good overall, little hard to start sometime, had to give slight throttle to get it to fire sometimes.

I'm thinking if I'm going to see any real benefits from this thing, it needs to go on a dyno

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which intake ya got?

What map did you use?

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Smed, I'm using my custom made air cleaner, I'd say in line with a big thunder I guess. I loaded the map for the 3" Hard Kromes and the big thunder, but I noticed last night that there is one for European models with 3" Hard Kromes and a hyper charger. When I compare the maps, I see that the one I have loaded now has a lot of fuel pulled in most of the ranges, yet the Euro map has fuel added for all the ranges. I was going to try and get it loaded tonight and take a rip.

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Best results come when you get the bike dyno'ed. Anything less is just a guess.

You run a fuel processor because pipes and an intake introduce more air into the system. Since our bikes have a very basic mapped fuel injection system; it doesn't automatically adjust sufficiently enough for that extra air; so we have to give it a bit of a boost. That's the "why". But the only way to really and truly know is to get it dyno'ed. A dyno tuner can tell you whether your bike actually needs the fuel processor, and can get your processor dialed in so it makes the most power. Who doesn't want more power?
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What romans said...

rocnrol, I kind of remember the write up you did with that filter.. was cool.

Did you actually remove the entire stock intake? Or just modified how the air filter is attached?

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I'm running the same processor, same pipes, and a BAK...the shop that did it for me loaded the stock maps and it was better, but not by much...got lucky and they had a traveling dyno crew in the following week...picked up an extra 19HP at the wheel with their tune.
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