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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-25-2012, 08:19 AM Thread Starter
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trying to decide between VN 1700 and VN 2000

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I currently have a C50T Suzuki (It is my 1st bike) owned for about 2 months have put 2500 miles on it so far. About 1000 of those have been riding 2 up. On Routes it is fine but on the highway the 800 engine just seems to work a little to hard to maintain - I know nature of the mid size bikes. I started looking at a couple of Vulcans and want some opinions.
I chose the Suzuki because it fit my height a little better (6'3") and the price I couldn't pass up.
07 Kaw Vulcan VN2000 - 5 speed - 10,000 miles mustang seats - pipes - air intake -- 8000$
09 Kaw Vulcan VN1700 - 6 speed - 1,200 miles - no extras - 9000$
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One thought was for the value of the bike and the other is the amount of power is a 2000 too much for a newer rider?

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1st off, their is no such thing as too much power. There is such a thing as not enough respect for a lot of power. What kind of 1700 are you looking at. A classic, nomad, voyager, vaquero? make a difference on price. I got my V2K earlier this year and yes it is big and yes it is powerful but its not riding a tank with a rocket strapped to its back. I have not had any problems out of mine but it only has 5400 miles. I am right at 6 foot and have plenty of room on it. I would not image 3 more inches would make much difference. I have not rode a 1700 so I can't tell you much about that.

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oh also. I got my 08 V2K classic for 9K brand new. If you are going to pay that price you can get a new one but you will have to spend money on the extras.

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They are both Classic LT
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IMO, the 1700s feel cramped once you have been on a V2K. I chose the V2K 8 years ago primarily because of power, but secondly, and maybe now more importantly, because of the allowable GVW. The V2K easily handles the nearly 700lb payload dropped on it when I am riding 2 up with my lady (and luggage).
Either way you choose though, you will have a fine ride for what seems to be a reasonable price. Ghost around on the forum for a bit to help you form an opinion. V2K owners are a rabid lot, extolling the virtues of torque and roll on power at every turn, but the bike is heavy handling at low speed and requires a firm hand. Any new 1700 I have test ridden was neutral handling and very accomodating. Shop around....
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IMO, the 1700s feel cramped once you have been on a V2K. I chose the V2K 8 years ago primarily because of power, but secondly, and maybe now more importantly, because of the allowable GVW. The V2K easily handles the nearly 700lb payload dropped on it when I am riding 2 up with my lady (and luggage).
Either way you choose though, you will have a fine ride for what seems to be a reasonable price. Ghost around on the forum for a bit to help you form an opinion. V2K owners are a rabid lot, extolling the virtues of torque and roll on power at every turn, but the bike is heavy handling at low speed and requires a firm hand. Any new 1700 I have test ridden was neutral handling and very accomodating. Shop around....
So true, It's all in what is important to you. But the "Heaviness" of the V2K goes away if you can get used to it. And it dose suffer a little on lean angle if you ride it HARD. But I like the torque and power of the V2K. I have rode it 2 up with bags stuffed full and pack on luggage rack and it handles it great. Ride them both if you can and if you can't, at least sit on both. Start hitting up your buddies that may have those bikes or used bike lots that may let you test ride. I know its not nice to do people like that but hey its your money and spend with a little knowledge behind it.

Also an 09 with only 1,200. What's the story behind it. Was it purchased new in 09 and ran for 1200 miles and just sit the rest of the time? What is purchased as a left over?

The V2K, did the owner put the pipes and intake to make it more powerful and dog it to death or did he just do it for the sound and look.

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About 1000 of those have been riding 2 up.

One thought was for the value of the bike and the other is the amount of power is a 2000 too much for a newer rider?
In my not so humble opinion............

Riding 2-up with only 2 months, or less, of experinece (and training?) is probably NOT a good thing to be doing.

I think you should STOP doing that, especially on the freeway, for about 6 months, and THEN start considering a different bike.

Both those you have listed are a BIG jump from what you have now, both size and power wise.

Even a 900 Vulcan seems to have a lot more power than my S50 (800).

The next logical step after an 800 is something like 1100-1500......unless maybe you will be doing a LOT of long distance touring or pulling a trailer.

I personally don't think that 95% of the riders out there really need, or get any particular advantage from anything bigger than 1500 cc's.

Many will probably disagree.
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Riding 2-up with only 2 months, or less, of experinece (and training?) is probably NOT a good thing to be doing.
I did not pick up on that. Yeah, not a good idea. But each is to their own.

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Both those you have listed are a BIG jump from what you have now, both size and power wise.
Even though I said "There is no such thing as too much power..." I did not mean it to sound like I thought it was a good idea, but just saying it is possible for a new rider. Looking back I jumped from a 650 nighthawk to a 1500 classic after about the same time period. Did I hurt myself or wipe it out? no I did not, BUT did it slow me down on learning to ride in general? YES.

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Even a 900 Vulcan seems to have a lot more power than my S50 (800).

The next logical step after an 800 is something like 1100-1500......unless maybe you will be doing a LOT of long distance touring or pulling a trailer.

I personally don't think that 95% of the riders out there really need, or get any particular advantage from anything bigger than 1500 cc's.

Many will probably disagree.
Personally I feel you can skip those sized bike if you spend A LOT more time on the zook. Do I really benefit from having 2053 cc's. Yes in the level of bragging rights and "my bikes bigger than your bike" but as for riding, no. But that extra power and torque makes it fun. I went from the 1500 classic to a 1600 Meanie and not talking bad about the meanie but I wish I kept the 1500.

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Thanks for the input -- this is exactly what I am looking for - honest opinions. I did take the safety course and have proceeded cautiously (at least I thought so) in expanding the distances I have ridden. It gives me more to ponder and consider -- again thanks for the input
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The VN2K is a great two-up bike, especially if you and the SO are larger folk. The torque makes short work of any hills even fully laden.
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