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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-21-2010, 12:52 PM Thread Starter
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Can anyone point out what is wrong in this photo?

Is this rider doing anything wrong?
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It appears he's leaning *against* the turn, but if you'll notice the twist in front of him, he may just be preparing for the next lean?

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It appears he's leaning *against* the turn, but if you'll notice the twist in front of him, he may just be preparing for the next lean?
I agree that the camera angle makes it a little difficult to determine if he is indeed preparing for the next turn, but the fact that the bike is probably scraping he may have done this prematurely. If he is indeed preparing for the next turn at the appropriate spot in the road, then he was travelling too fast for the road conditions.

I have attached a couple of images showing better rider position for cornering which will allow you to reduce the risk of touching hard parts on the road.
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... then he was travelling too fast for the road conditions.
I thought he was placed poorly in respect to the upcoming curve, but not knowing what was left of the edge of the picture, i couldn't tell for sure.

I tend to disagree about your "too fast" statement however. The road conditions look fine... good visibility, dry & clean road.

My guess is that he failed to look far enough ahead to properly set up for the turns. But then, i don't have a problem with scraping a little metal on occasion.

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I thought he was placed poorly in respect to the upcoming curve, but not knowing what was left of the edge of the picture, i couldn't tell for sure.

I tend to disagree about your "too fast" statement however. The road conditions look fine... good visibility, dry & clean road.

My guess is that he failed to look far enough ahead to properly set up for the turns. But then, i don't have a problem with scraping a little metal on occasion.
This is supposed to be the "NEW RIDER" section. The picture makes it look like the frame is close to touching if not actually touching. He is either a) going to fast for his skill level, or b) using improper body positioning in the turn which is causing the bike to have to lean further to hold the line. But that is just my opinion based on observation.

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This is supposed to be the "NEW RIDER" section.
Sorry, i didn't notice that. I'll make sure not to post here in the future since i'm not really a "NEW RIDER".

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Sorry, i didn't notice that. I'll make sure not to post here in the future since i'm not really a "NEW RIDER".
I was trying to post something useful to new riders. I guess I will stick to the other sections of the forum since you seem to have this one covered.

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Is this rider doing anything wrong?
What I see wrong is:
1) It's warm enough to wear short sleeves, yet he's wearing long pants?
2) He hasn't passed the Harley in front of him slowing him down?
3) He hasn't opened the vents on the lowers?
4) Of course, (Stupid me), It isn't me riding the Dragon on my Voyager!!
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His body should be perpendicular to the bike. When you lean your body upright like that, it changes the centrifugal mass weight distribution of the bike and puts more downward pressure on the bike. Better to stay perp with the bike and just swivel your neck if you want to be looking level.

Having said that, if he's going too fast into the turn, applying more downward pressure helps the bike turn tighter at higher speeds. It what some track racers do when they lay their bikes over and scrape their knees on the ground. Check the inside guy:


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He doesn't have his helmet buckled properly.

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