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Old 10-24-2012, 01:30 PM   #1
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Default Went a different route with my Vaquero's audio system

The OEM audio system was fine untill i added a loud exhaust and my BAK. I found that at the higher speeds and/or traveling into the wind or ridin in gusty conditions the system just could not punch thru the all the noise no matter how high I had the volume turned up to.

So, my first mod was to change the speakers. Hog Tunes came out with direct replacement speakers for the Vulcans. The claim was 20% more sound. On my skoot I experienced a LOSS of sound volume. At those times where I could not hear the OEM system good enuff I would just turn it off. The night I rode with the HT speakers I was disappointed in the loss of volume that I rode with the system off most of the night. Now I know that some peeps were happy with the HT speakers, unfortunately my skoot and my ears were not happy. They were removed the next day and put away.

Many know of the members that upgraded to the Rockford/Fosgate amps and how much of an improvement it made, and I followed those threads and learned alot. I am grateful to those who made the upgrades and posted the results. My own problem, and it's all mine is the amount of work involved in the install, which really is not alot. But workin on skoots all day then trying to find the gumption to install the amp and do all the wiring had me procrastinating big time.

Afew weeks ago we installed a handlebar mounted audio system with amplified speakers on a customers skoot that connected to her i-pod. The sound was great and the volume was good also. That got me thinking and I did a search for "5 1/4"amplified speakers" and came up with Cycle Sounds m/c audio specialists. COOL!! Their site showed the amplified speakers with what they call "Power Pucks". What they also had were the pPwer Puck amplifiers available seperately to use with my speakers. Since I already had the HT speakers that was supposed to be better than stock speakers I inquired about the power pucks.

I spoke to a lady (I think here name was Valerie) who was EXTREMELY helpful in answering my lame brained questions. We did get to the point where my questions exceeded her knowledge, I was then put in touch with Bill. He was so helpful in "teaching" me stuff about audio ,uh, stuff. Vey helpful people with the kind of customer service that puts a big smile on my face.

We decided that I would order the Power Puck amplifiers to use with the HT speakers. So couple of weeks ago I recieved the amps. The install was exactly what this lazy guy wanted. All i had to remove was the speakers, the speaker housings and the headlite. The amps required a switched 12 volt supply and a ground, both of which are found in the inside of the fairing on the upper left side. EASY AS PIE!! Just what this lazy dude wanted!

The amps have 4 different adjustments that we went thru to get the sound right. I was kinda disappointed when I really cranked up the gain, the speakers distorted, so we just tuned for the best sound quality.

Out on the road there was a deffinate boost in sound volume with a bit better sound quality. I still wanted more volume than what i tuned it for, but even with that tuning the clarity was,um, not what I wanted.

Last week a Vaquero owner brought his skoot in for baseline dyno runs on his stock skoot b4 he did his mods. He had installed the Rockford amp with Infinity speakers. I was impressed with the fullness of the sound. He had sent me a link to buy those Infinity speakers, which i did, and today did the install one speaker at a time.

First was to install the right side speaker with no adjustment to the amp. Both my mechanic and myself could tell a HUGE inmprovement in sound quality, and even putting my head close to the HT speaker I could hear the Infinity speaker drowning the HT speaker out. Cranking up the volume we could tell a noticeable iprovement in the sound clearity as the words in the song were perfectly clear coming from the Infinity speaker. I replaced the other HT speaker and WOW, what an even bigger improvement. I will take the skoot out tonite for a ride to hear what the improvements are on the road.

PICS OF THE POWER PUCKS...







THE INFINITY SPEAKER...





So, this is kinda the lazy man's way of improving the sound, and at this point
I really look forward to what I hear on the road. If it's more gooder ( as my dad used to say) then I'll open up the amps and do some more tuning.

Thanx to Barry for his speaker recommendation, and thanx to the fine peeps at Cycle Sounds.

I'll let u'all know after tonite's ride.

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Old 10-24-2012, 03:07 PM   #2
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Thanks for the review Ray!

I will keep an eye on this thread.
I haven't decided on getting pipes yet; but the radio is already at its 'quality' limit. So, if the VV gets louder the radio will need to also!

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Old 10-24-2012, 08:55 PM   #3
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Thanks for the post, I really like my Infinity speakers in and outside my house so I guess I should have realised the auto speakers would be the same quality and sound. Maybe a winter time project coming.
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:20 PM   #4
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I rode the skoot last nite and just came back from runnin an errand on it, and with these speakers the sound quality is truly improved. I do not have to have the volume as high, running around town it's at 6-8 with the AVC set at 5.

The clarity is so good now that I do not need to have the volume as loud on the hi-way as I used to. I am finally happy with the ability of the sound system to deliver the volume I need with the sound quality that the stock system just could not match.

The wind noise is the biggest factor in hearing the music, and when I rode with my face shield down it would further impede on hearing the music. Now the music punches thru the wind noise and riding with my face shield down does not have such a negative affect.

I'll ride the skoot for a while with the settings in the amps as they were set up for the HT speakers to get a good baseline of the improvements with these speakers, then I'll attempt some fine tuning of the amps to see if there is more to be had with these speakers.

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Old 10-25-2012, 12:43 PM   #5
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Geez, ray, now you have me thinking about an amp. Just don't think I can do the picks due to cost. May have to go with regular amp
Anybody know the thread from the guy that installed his in the fairing?
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:47 PM   #6
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Geez, ray, now you have me thinking about an amp. Just don't think I can do the picks due to cost. May have to go with regular amp
Anybody know the thread from the guy that installed his in the fairing?
Here's BrucerZX14s' original Fosgate thread http://www.vulcanforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=24559 .

And here's Einstein's blog post on his install. http://vaqueroampinstall.blogspot.com/

Both had some great pics and details on how they went about it..
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Here's BrucerZX14s' original Fosgate thread http://www.vulcanforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=24559 .

And here's Einstein's blog post on his install. http://vaqueroampinstall.blogspot.com/

Both had some great pics and details on how they went about it..
Thanks for the info vagabond.
Just have to convince myself that I can remove the fairing and do the install then put everything back together again, without my normal amount of leftover parts
Where in se pa are you located? Used to live in Lancaster and still have family up there.
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Thanks for the info vagabond.
Just have to convince myself that I can remove the fairing and do the install then put everything back together again, without my normal amount of leftover parts
Where in se pa are you located? Used to live in Lancaster and still have family up there.
Ahhh you can do it.. What's a few left over parts. Lighter weight, better mileage, higher top speed..

I'm a little north west of Valley Forge. I ride with a few guys from the Lancaster area pretty regularly. Pa is a pretty nice state for riding. Some good scenery and some decent roads when you're off the main highways. 'Course if you're riding in Amish country ya gotta watch out for the buggy exhaust. That's some slippery stuff when fresh..
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Ahhh you can do it.. What's a few left over parts. Lighter weight, better mileage, higher top speed..

I'm a little north west of Valley Forge. I ride with a few guys from the Lancaster area pretty regularly. Pa is a pretty nice state for riding. Some good scenery and some decent roads when you're off the main highways. 'Course if you're riding in Amish country ya gotta watch out for the buggy exhaust. That's some slippery stuff when fresh..
Ah yes, those beloved buggies and their "horsepower". I remember them well, always a surprise when coming over a hill!
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:07 PM   #10
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How will those speakers handle the elements? I am going to be getting the pucks and the new speakers.
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