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So an e-mail notification arrives in my in-box with the title, "Walmart Oil Filter," and I get all excited. I mean, it's a dead-thread resurrection, so, obviously, someone has finally found a source of my beloved SuperTech oil filters or, at the very least, they are reporting that WalMart has announced that due to overwhelmingly popular demand, the SuperTech oil filter factory (surely there is/was a factory dedicated to the manufacturing of these superb pieces of automotive and motorcycle engineering) has, much like this thread, been resurrected.
But, no! It's a trick! Look away! It's simply one more complaint about another instance of poor dealer service. As if that's actually some kind of rare occurrence!?
C'mon, people, for the love of Willie G., let's try to keep this hallowed thread pure. If it doesn't directly relate to the revered, respected, reliable, robust, remarkable, righteous, rockin' SuperTech oil filter, then...oh, never mind, I am simply too deflated to care and I still don't know what to use for filter medium come my next oil change, which is all-too-quickly approaching.
A sad day this is.
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...Still waiting for a verified case of Vulcan engine failure directly linked to non-oem filters (Fram, Super-Tech, etc...) or non motorcycle specific oil, such as Rotella. Until that happens....it's just arguing over apples and oranges.
First of all, using an inferior filter or oil probably will not lead to a sudden engine failure. On the other hand, the wrong oil can lead to serious clutch problems. Since that is not an engine failure it does not matter?
Some people are just too invested in pushing cheap and/or Chinese junk on others and too into getting offended because others won't fall for the cheaper is better line.
I use top of the line oil and filters in all my internal combustion engines. I also change my oil and filters too often. If that makes me a troll, good. If someone objecting to others being told cheap junk is not the best choice for their maintenance choices, or toaster choices, or whatever, makes them a troll, then I am a troll and proud of it.
As for me and my house, we will use quality.
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Originally Posted by KenDawg
...Still waiting for a verified case of Vulcan engine failure directly linked to non-oem filters (Fram, Super-Tech, etc...) or non motorcycle specific oil, such as Rotella. Until that happens....it's just arguing over apples and oranges.
BLASPHEMER!
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Hi Ponch,
I've been burned too many times buying things other than groceries from Wally World. As far as filters, if you've had no problems then I would keep getting them there. Just saying, I know how Walmart squeezes major manufactures ( Levis, General Electric etc) into putting their names on products that aren't up to standards so I am always hesitant to buy from them but I guess that's another topic for another forum lol...hope all is well, ride safe!
just like the Fords made in Mexico people think they are buying made in America
just like the Fords made in Mexico people think they are buying made in America
It's not just Ford by any means. (As a matter of fact I read the other day they rank among the top in 'percentage of american made' or whatever). Chrysler, General Motors, it's all Mexico, Canada, and even China for some components now.
The sad truth is, if you want a bonafide American car, built and assembled here by American workers with American made parts and American engines, then you'll be shopping for a Hyundai, a Honda, or a Toyota. A law passed in the 80's requires manufacturers to label all vehicles sold in the US with the percentage of parts that were sourced in the United States, and where it had final assembly. My mom has a Honda sedan that is 86% American parts and assembled in Ohio. My GM nor Ford sedan's I own are anywhere near that...
Oh and the number 1 most American made car of 2012? Toyota Avalon. Number 3 is the Honda Accord. Number two is a Chevy... but, it's a 15 passenger van sold to fleet customers. (Actually Toyota has a vehicle that is 95% American sourced parts but they assemble it in Canada and then ship it back down here... how does that make sense? LOL.)
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Wow, you really are on some kind of crusade to convince the world that the exorbitant price you pay for a simple filter is justified, aren't you?
In any event, you conveniently left this out of your quote above,"[T]he quality of Super Tech filters is high and few complaints have been lodged."
And to paraphrase you, where's the proof that anything you're quoting is true? it just sounds like a bunch of opinion to me. Heck, the author himself states, "It is difficult to compare the high-end WIX filter to Walmart's Super Tech simply because side-by-side comparisons have not been done. While SAE J806 tests prove the pricey WIX oil filters are able to keep filtering longer than the leading national brand, the J806 tests are merely the required filter test and not the most accurate." But, of course, you conveniently left that part out, too.
My references were to a site run by an engineer, one who is doing post-graduate work in theoretical physics no less, who did the research (theoretical physicists do a lot of that), then used his expertise to make educated assessments, and then make recommendations based upon those educated assessments.
I am sorry that your pet filter didn't make it to his recommended list. Perhaps you can contact the author and ask him why (although my strong suspicion is that you've already given him a stern lecture, too).
In the interim, you, of course, are free to dispute his and others' empirical findings, along with those of the actual users of the filters, continue to spend (and/or waste) your money any way you wish, and continue your crusade.
As for me, some times good enough is simply good enough, especially when "good enough" is backed by abundant evidence, first-hand and otherwise, so I, too, am done arguing with someone who appears to be simply attempting to justify their own additional, albeit needless, expense (Harley owners do this a lot).
But where is the SuperTech filter in all of this? Oh, the huge manatee!
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