Did you see a performance improvement after you did it? My Nomad really seemed to free up and ran better after the baffles were removed. Curious if you saw any difference in your Voyager. Does it run any cooler?
Originally Posted by flatop
I was also looking for a video "how too", but once you hold a 1 1/4" hole saw to the inside of the pipe...you'll realize just how simple it is. You have to get an arbor extension from home depot and a hole saw. You're only cutting through thin pieces of sheet metal. First one you can see right at the rear, second one is further in about 4inches if I remember. The trick is be real easy on the second one, as there is catalytic material beyond that one and you don't want to cut that(or at least I didn't).
The first metal plate came out still attached to the hole saw. Removed it with a screwdriver and did the second one. the second one didn't come out attached to the hole saw and it's probably still in there. A buddy of mine did his and had the same result. Sounds much better, but is definately not a loud bike.
Don't overthink it. It's really not a complicated modification. Just do it (like Nike says)
Today I heard a Road Glide with V&H full pipes with stage two kit. At idle I could feel it in my chest. It was like standing in front of a bass drum. That bike sounded like a late 60s muscle car. Nice and deep sounding.
For me, debaffled pipes just sound loud without a nice tuned sound.
I did the debaffle within about a month of getting the bike. Not sure if there is a noticeable difference when just doing this. The biggest thing holding back that motor is the highly restrictive intake system and the epa compliant fuel mapping. Once I did a big air intake and a power commander the power was definately noticeable.
I'm sure the bike breathes a little better with the debaffle, just not sure the "performance gain" is measurable by the seat of the pants. I like the sound of the bike enough, that I decided the bike didn't need aftermarket pipes (about $500 savings).
Audio/Video of a before and after Debaffle would also be useful if anyone would be so inclined.
To be specific, we are talking about the 1.25" Hole Saw removal of the central baffle plates.
It is clearly easy to remove the two end plates in both the Nomad/Voyager/Vaquero Duals as well as the Classic Shotgun Mufflers.
From what I am reading, however, only the Classic Shotgun Mufflers allow for removal for direct access to the front baffle plate in each muffler.
Since I have a Classic LT, I would be most interested in how the Classic sounds with just the first two baffle plates in each muffler removed, as well as the sound with all three plates per muffler removed.
I have been cutting baffles out of scoot mufflers for 50 years... But some of these guys in here have never seen it done and may have not ever seen a muffler that has had it done.... and you cannot blame them for being cautious about it.
What may be simple for some is a major operation for others.... remember that.....
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Voyager 1700 owners...
WRAP your pipes.... You will glad you did...
Go to GADGETS page, have a look at the cross section pic under the heading, GUTTING 1600 MUFFLERS, the pic is identical to our 1700 mufflers EXCEPT our mufflers have 2 baffles to remove from the rear, NOT 3.