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2016 Vulcan Voyager 1700 Advice

I am looking for some advice on a purchase of a new 2016 Vulcan Voyager 1700. A little background. I have a 2000 Vulcan 1500 Custom Classic FI, and it is time to move up to a full dresser bike. I have had the 1500 since 2005 and have enjoyed it.

The wife and I would like to make some weekend trips and without a tour pack, more comfortable seating for her, and a sixth gear, it's not going to happen. I make a couple of decent yearly trips, approximately 1,500 miles with a few friends and they own Harley's and an Indian Roadmaster. All nice bikes, really like the Indian.

Have always taken some ribbing for my Vulcan. I'm good as it cost me under $5K, and while it does not have all the bells and whistles, It keeps up with them just fine. I would like to continue the tradition and roll up in a new Vulcan.

OK, so there are some good deals out there now, and I have a few questions. My main concerns are heat and lack of heated grips and heated seat. Heat is the most pressing issue. Will I be able to handle the heat the engine puts out without taking measures to combat it? Does the KAMS system work well enough? Should I use Ivan's ECU programming change to help with it or wait for maybe for new pipes?

There seems to plenty of heated grips available on the aftermarket. Corbin has a heated seat. So I have options, just don't know if I like the Corbin style (harder) seat. I have a Musting seat on my current bike a like it.

Since there are not a lot of these bikes out there or 2017 demo bikes available, I will not be able to take an extended test drive. I have watched a lot of videos and read a lot here. If I pull the trigger, I hope I like it on a long haul.

Finally, which windshield size do you have? I do not like to look through the windshield when I ride. I know there is a 14" and 12" available. I think the 14" maybe too tall as well. I am 5'-11" tall with a 31" inseam.

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So, I've got a 2016 Vaquero... not quite the same thing, but it may still be applicable.

I installed a harness for heated gloves - FirstGear. I like them a lot. I used them down to 25 degrees, and while the rest of me was frozen, my hands were nice and warm.

Heat the engine puts off? It's bearable. I suggest highway pegs to get your legs out of the vortex of hot air. Lower covers are bad above 70 degrees, great at anything under that.

I find that the Vaquero seat (different from the Voyager seat) gets uncomfortable after an hour or so. The Corbin I have is really nice, and I like it, but it is too much of a stretch for me to reach the handlebars, which leads to back pain. I'll be installing pullback risers to fix that

Windshield! I have the 12" Klockwerks recurve screen on my Vaq. It's *phenomenal*! I can't recommend it enough. It's just tall enough to create a great bubble of calm wind for me, but I can still see over it.

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Hello LaskoFan,

I thought we might be co-workers till I read your introduction thread.
Beautiful country up near West Chester.

The KAMS system works great. EVERY big combustion engine is gonna put out heat, the KAMS really does it's job though. I don't think you'll need to anything else but if you decide to wrap the header with exhaust wrap and you'll barely notice a difference from left side to right.
I would use a good 10W-40 full synthetic oil in the summer and not worry about pipes or Ivans. Unless you're looking for sound.

The fairing does a good job of keeping wind off your hands. I ride into the low 30s and only used winter gloves for my 20 minute commute. Longer trips in those temps will require something more; but I don't go out for long rides when it's below 40 so I can't help you there.

The Voyager is a great bike and a good value. As long as you evaluate it based on what it does and not what other people think; you'll be happy with the bike.

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One thing about Ivan's ECU is that he lowers the temp for the fan to kick on. Factory temp for fan is 220, but Ivan sets it at 180.

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So, I've got a 2016 Vaquero... not quite the same thing, but it may still be applicable.

I installed a harness for heated gloves - FirstGear. I like them a lot. I used them down to 25 degrees, and while the rest of me was frozen, my hands were nice and warm.

Heat the engine puts off? It's bearable. I suggest highway pegs to get your legs out of the vortex of hot air. Lower covers are bad above 70 degrees, great at anything under that.

I find that the Vaquero seat (different from the Voyager seat) gets uncomfortable after an hour or so. The Corbin I have is really nice, and I like it, but it is too much of a stretch for me to reach the handlebars, which leads to back pain. I'll be installing pullback risers to fix that

Windshield! I have the 12" Klockwerks recurve screen on my Vaq. It's *phenomenal*! I can't recommend it enough. It's just tall enough to create a great bubble of calm wind for me, but I can still see over it.

Good luck!

-John
I really like the recurve screens. My buddy has one on his Indian and he, like you, can't say enough about it. Will be looking to get one if I pull the trigger on the bike. Are you saying the lower covers make it too hot when the temperature is above 70? Even with the cam flap open to allow air to pass through them?
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I would get the Ivans ECU flash and then look at a Rifle shield. I have 14" and it's just right for my chubby 5'10" self...
I believe you can get heated seats from Ultimate... Just have to talk to them...

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Hello LaskoFan,

I thought we might be co-workers till I read your introduction thread.
Beautiful country up near West Chester.

The KAMS system works great. EVERY big combustion engine is gonna put out heat, the KAMS really does it's job though. I don't think you'll need to anything else but if you decide to wrap the header with exhaust wrap and you'll barely notice a difference from left side to right.
I would use a good 10W-40 full synthetic oil in the summer and not worry about pipes or Ivans. Unless you're looking for sound.

The fairing does a good job of keeping wind off your hands. I ride into the low 30s and only used winter gloves for my 20 minute commute. Longer trips in those temps will require something more; but I don't go out for long rides when it's below 40 so I can't help you there.

The Voyager is a great bike and a good value. As long as you evaluate it based on what it does and not what other people think; you'll be happy with the bike.

Scott
Thanks for your input. If I get the bike I will take my time in order to change things. I want to make sure what I need and how it performs prior changing things up. I have a 1500 Vulcan today but no fairing so I really do not feel the heat like I assume I will with the newer bike. It will be interesting to feel how hot it gets and what my wife and I can take.
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One thing about Ivan's ECU is that he lowers the temp for the fan to kick on. Factory temp for fan is 220, but Ivan sets it at 180.
I read that and looks like a good idea. Even a manual toggle switch for it may work as well. I am a little concerned with flashing the ECU in the warranty period. I would assume it would void the warranty. Do you know of this is the case?
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I have a 2011 Nomad which is the same bike without the fairing and trunk (though I've now got the trunk kit, which is essentially the Voyager trunk). I've also got Ivan's flash, and a few other do dads. The seat on the Nomad is the same as the Voyager, and I find it very comfortable for all day trips. I've heard others say its a good seat "for a stock seat." All I have to compare it to is the seat on my 900, and this is wayyyy more comfortable than the 900 stock seat. Sixth gear and cruise control are great on the freeway. I find the bike very comfortable. I've seen some complain about the suspension, but to me, with the air shocks set right, it rides like a cadillac. It does give off heat, and I would think the Voyagers before the KAMS would have been worse due to the lower fairing. It's not too much for me, and the flash reduced it a bit (by my butt thermometer). Sounds like KAMS works.

I think these bikes are great deals. I bought mine as a new leftover in 2015 (yes, a brand new four year old bike) for a very good deal. I like my Nomad so much, that if it went away today, I'd buy a Voyager tomorrow. The only upgrade would be the fairing. I'd think about an Ultra, but I don't see the value for the $$ like the Voyager.

Just my opinion.

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I really like the recurve screens. My buddy has one on his Indian and he, like you, can't say enough about it. Will be looking to get one if I pull the trigger on the bike. Are you saying the lower covers make it too hot when the temperature is above 70? Even with the cam flap open to allow air to pass through them?
Definitely get the recurve windshield!

As for the lowers, I have the leather sagebrush ones which clip and snap on. Anything over 70 degrees is way hot. Realistically, anything over 65 starts getting warm.

I don't have a cam flap on those leather suckers, but they're easy enough to put on and remove. I left 'em on for the whole winter, since my bike didn't sit more than a couple of weeks at a time

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