thankyou pacomutt, that is excellent info! i appreicate the advise. This is my first cruiser, my previous experience has been with more performance oriented bike (currently have a zx10r as my second bike) so i wasnt sure if the oil is put through the same demands on a cruiser engine as it would on a sportsbike. i used to use Amsoil when i owned a BUell and it worked out fine. Just too pricey for my blood!