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The problem with Victory was always aesthetics. A few years ago, some friends and I were riding and on a stop we were chatting bikes. A Victory pulled up to get gas, and immediately everyone started talking about it. At issue seemed to be the overemphasized arch to them giving them a top-heavy appearance and the disproportionate -looking size of the jugs. Out of six of us that day, only one of us thought the Victory was a visually appealing bike. And unlike most cruisers, few Victory models lend themselves to accessorizing for touring. The general consensus seems to be that either you love them or can't stand them. I, unfortunately, am in the latter camp. I didn't mind the Vegas models, for what they are, but I just couldn't get into the design of most of them. Judging by sales, I'd guess I'm not alone.
I'm not particularly a huge fan of the way they look; but they are remarkably well balanced bikes.

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I'm not particularly a huge fan of the way they look; but they are remarkably well balanced bikes.
I don't doubt it. I sat on one in a dealership and I tipped it from side to side to see how quickly it wanted to fall and it was remarkably stable compared to say a Yamaha 1600, or even my own bike. I just can't get past the looks.

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That's a shame. they made a great affordable cruiser, though I was never a fan of the rear brake light integrated into the fender that way. They even had Arlen Ness on board to fancy that thing up. I think maybe it was an American cruiser in a Harley-dominated field. Hard to shine through that.
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I for real liked the clean-ness of the engine. No other manufacturer hid the wiring, linkages, intake, and hardware like victory. The above picture shows what I am talking about. I also sat on each an every one at the dealer and liked the ergonomics of them. In my town polaris gets a bad rap. Not sure why......

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Local media is reporting that, at present, there will be some job losses, here in Spirit Lake. All Indians will be assembled here. Temporary help will be reduced/eliminated . Indian and the Slingshot are reported to be selling well.

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Well I think it may be my fault! I started looking at a possible new ride two on my top short list were the HD Vrod and Victory Octane. HD discontinued the Vrod line in Sept and now Victory. Perhaps some kind of curse, I won't mention the others on my list because at this rate Vespa may be the only 2 wheel vehicle left.

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You can't blame Polaris... they are in the business of making money and that doesn't mean just in the US. I'm not sure how far Polaris went with international advertising or sales but i don't think any would argue the fact that Indian is much longer standing brand and reputation. They looked at the potential for each and decided to go with the one that could make them more money with less investment. Indian Motorcycles already has world wide recognition compared to Victory. At the international market it was an easy decision for them to make. Money makes the world go round.... sad but true...

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You can't blame Polaris... they are in the business of making money and that doesn't mean just in the US. I'm not sure how far Polaris went with international advertising or sales but i don't think any would argue the fact that Indian is much longer standing brand and reputation. They looked at the potential for each and decided to go with the one that could make them more money with less investment. Indian Motorcycles already has worldwide recognition compared to Victory. At the international market, it was an easy decision for them to make. Money makes the world go round.... sad but true...
Yes, but having shut down twice already, there is no guarantee Indian will be around all that long, either. I'm not sure what the market is for bikes in the 18 to 26k range, but as of 2016, Indian had enjoyed an annual 18% or so sales increase from each year before since 2011, and had put a serious dent in the HD market. But then again, the article I read said Polaris had managed to stop the bleeding with the Victory line, too, as of may last year. I hope they can make a go of it. The motorcycle market is nothing if not a bit finicky. Worldwide, not that many countries besides the US and Canada buy that many cruiser type bikes 900CC and over. I love the Cruiser style, but I can't justify paying more than I paid for a two-year-old Nissan Altima with 18k miles on it for a vehicle I can only ride about 6 or 7 months a year and just sits in the garage the rest of the time. Most metric manufacturers have moved on from the big bore classic cruiser styling and are producing bikes that aren't all that appealing to me. I'll just keep patching mine up as time goes by, I guess.

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Yes, but having shut down twice already, there is no guarantee Indian will be around all that long, either. I'm not sure what the market is for bikes in the 18 to 26k range, but as of 2016, Indian had enjoyed an annual 18% or so sales increase from each year before since 2011, and had put a serious dent in the HD market. But then again, the article I read said Polaris had managed to stop the bleeding with the Victory line, too, as of may last year. I hope they can make a go of it. The motorcycle market is nothing if not a bit finicky. Worldwide, not that many countries besides the US and Canada buy that many cruiser type bikes 900CC and over. I love the Cruiser style, but I can't justify paying more than I paid for a two-year-old Nissan Altima with 18k miles on it for a vehicle I can only ride about 6 or 7 months a year and just sits in the garage the rest of the time. Most metric manufacturers have moved on from the big bore classic cruiser styling and are producing bikes that aren't all that appealing to me. I'll just keep patching mine up as time goes by, I guess.

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I also agree about the spending - knowing I wouldn't get to ride whatever new bike I got every day, I picked a monthly payment I wouldn't consider a total waste during the rainy/snowy months, and stuck to it. This limited me in what I was gonna buy, and in the end, I'm happy with my Vaq.

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Yeah have to agree the cruiser market has a ceiling. If my knees didn't swell from arthritis on occasion I'd stick with a sport bike. The Voyager is comfortable touring two up with lots of storage. I doubt I'll buy another.
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